31 Jul 08
Its been close to S-E-V-E-N and Tournament 1677 has still not been awarded, I think its time that David Tebb apologizes to cludi and Russ should award him this tournament because the game mods should have came to a conclusion by now, and obviously since they havent, there is not sufficient evidence.
31 Jul 08
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Originally posted by NorrisBKorch said he had been waiting more than a year for Stephane's ban. Thread 97758
the game mods should have came to a conclusion by now, and obviously since they havent, there is not sufficient evidence.
I have no evidence that anything has happened about the Cludi situation or not, so it would just be an assumption to sit out here and say he was innocent/guilty. It's all up to the admins. 🙂
31 Jul 08
What? Cludi himself admitted that there was a 1 in 300 chance (or was it 1 in 900?) that he was NOT cheating. I don't think we can conclude from that that he is innocent.
Likely, his investigation was stopped and won't be picked up anymore considering he already left the site. I doubt we'll ever know the complete truth.
31 Jul 08
Originally posted by schakuhrI think that it should be a case of innocent until proven guilty.
What? Cludi himself admitted that there was a 1 in 300 chance (or was it 1 in 900?) that he was NOT cheating. I don't think we can conclude from that that he is innocent.
Likely, his investigation was stopped and won't be picked up anymore considering he already left the site. I doubt we'll ever know the complete truth.
I say award him the tournament. Otherwise, it makes a mockery of all those tournaments won by clivestraddle - including this one: Tournament 4392 still in progress....
31 Jul 08
Originally posted by Hindsteintwo wrongs don't make a right.
I think that it should be a case of innocent until proven guilty.
I say award him the tournament. Otherwise, it makes a mockery of all those tournaments won by clivestraddle - including this one: Tournament 4392 still in progress....
and the fact that the tournament victory hasn't been awarded, tells us that the related issues have NOT been resolved yet, whatever they are.
31 Jul 08
Originally posted by wormwoodThat's not the point.
two wrongs don't make a right.
and the fact that the tournament victory hasn't been awarded, tells us that the related issues have NOT been resolved yet, whatever they are.
Cludi has not been proved guilty, so he should be awarded the win.
Olympic medalists only get stripped of their title when they fail a drugs test. Without a ban, or any proof of cheating, then the win should be awarded - even if it is taken away later.
31 Jul 08
Originally posted by Hindsteinrhp is not olympics, a democracy, inquisition, a court of law or any other system it's been compared to. it's rhp, and the admins decide how they want to run things. clearly they think the issues related to the 2007 championships win have not been dealt with yet.
That's not the point.
Cludi has not been proved guilty, so he should be awarded the win.
Olympic medalists only get stripped of their title when they fail a drugs test. Without a ban, or any proof of cheating, then the win should be awarded - even if it is taken away later.
01 Aug 08
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Originally posted by wormwoodI'm still quite new to the site, and certainly, what you've said is correct. However, while RHP is not a democracy, etc., it is a community. It seems that this has been going on longer than what would be considered "reasonable."
rhp is not olympics, a democracy, inquisition, a court of law or any other system it's been compared to. it's rhp, and the admins decide how they want to run things. clearly they think the issues related to the 2007 championships win have not been dealt with yet.
If it is going to be dealt with, I think that it would be beneficial for the administration folks to say when this will occur. Otherwise it seems to be festering and detracting from this glorious site.
Of course there are a number of ways it could be dealt with, declare/decide that it was cheating & ban cludi, declare that the evidence is inconclusive and, given the uncertainty, award the championship, declare uncertainty and award a dual championship, etc.
03 Aug 08
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Originally posted by wormwood
it's rhp, and the admins decide how they want to run things.
that would be some kind of dictatorship then... which seems at odds with the business model of relying on your subscribers to keep you in power
clearly they think the issues related to the 2007 championships win have not been dealt with yet.
they haven't made anything clear... or even cloudy... and I think as their paymasters we deserve better
03 Aug 08
Originally posted by thaughbaerWhen you pay your subscription, you are paying for a few extras that non-subs can't use. That isn't the same as buying shares in a company and having rights to say how the business is run.
Originally posted by wormwood
[b]it's rhp, and the admins decide how they want to run things.
that would be some kind of dictatorship then... which seems at odds with the business model of relying on your subscribers to keep you in power
clearly they think the issues related to the 2007 championships win have not been dealt with yet.[/b ...[text shortened]... n't made anything clear... or even cloudy... and I think as their paymasters we deserve better
03 Aug 08
Originally posted by Pawn QweenNo need to post in bold... it doesn't make what you say true. Quite how you made the leap from my post to suggesting I shpuld be running the business is beyond me. We are customers.. and customers deserve good service.
When you pay your subscription, you are paying for a few extras that non-subs can't use. That isn't the same as buying shares in a company and having rights to say how the business is run.
03 Aug 08
Originally posted by thaughbaerBold is the way it came, so bold is what's there! 😛
No need to post in bold... it doesn't make what you say true. Quite how you made the leap from my post to suggesting I shpuld be running the business is beyond me. We are customers.. and customers deserve good service.
What I said is true, paying subs doesn't mean we can say how Russ runs his business.If you re-read your post, to which I replied, you will see the connection - I didn't think it was too difficult.
I'm happy with the service here. The 2007 Championship award will either be awarded or not - to anyone. I'm not in the running for it, so it's no big issue to me, but I do appreciate it is your ex clan leader that is involved and therefore you want an answer. 🙂