22 Sep 11
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Originally posted by tomtom232Yeah, I went on a slightly different route, was worried about 7...hxg5
[pgn] [FEN "rnbqk1nr/pppp2b1/5p1p/6p1/2BPPp1P/5N2/PPP3P1/RNBQK2R w"]
1.Nxg5 {'nuff said} Qe7 {but we'll take the path of the non sac accepter} 2.Qh5+ Kd8 3.Nf7+ Ke8 4.Nd6 +[/pgn]
The full game:
22 Sep 11
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Originally posted by VelvetEars
Is there a killer attack there? (I'm very tired at the moment so I'm probably missing it)
[pgn]
[FEN "r6r/ppp2q2/5pkp/3pPNbR/3P2P1/5Q2/PPP5/1K5R w - - 0 1"] 1.Qd3 Qe6 2.Nh4 Kf7 3.Qg6 Kf8 4. Nf5 {Not sure if there's a better attack move here} Qf7 {Forcing queens off}
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Still think it's a won position for white with the weak h pawn though.
Originally posted by VelvetEars
[pgn]
[FEN "r6r/ppp2q2/5pkp/3pPNbR/3P2P1/5Q2/PPP5/1K5R w - - 0 1"] 1.Qd3 Qe6 2.Nh4 Kf7 3.Qg6 Kf8 4. exf6 {if the queen takes the pawn then Rxg5 - nice} Bxf6 5.Rf5 Ke7 6.Rh1-f1 Ra8-f8 {Can Black scramble a defence here?}
[/pgn]
Edit: won't edit the pgn this time but you can even try 7.Nf5+ too but then the queen can play a desperado and take the knight so it probably wouldn't get as high an evaluation but against most people it would probably lead to mate quicker.
Edit2: LOL you should leave then... or stay. I'm sure you can put two office chairs together as a bed or some such.
22 Sep 11
Originally posted by VelvetEarsSo maybe 1.hxg5 first then play the sac on e5 or g5 depending on how black captures the pawn.
Yeah, I went on a slightly different route, was worried about 7...hxg5
[fen] rnbqk1nr/pppp2b1/5p2/6p1/2BPPp1P/8/PPP3P1/RNBQK2R [/fen]
The full game:
[pgn]
1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. f2-f4 e5xf4 3. Ng1-f3 g7-g5 4. Bf1-c4 Bf8-g7 5. h2-h4 h7-h6 6. d2-d4 f7-f6 7. Nf3-e5 f6xe5 {Pretty much forced- no acceptors get punsihed} 8. Qd1-h5 Ke8-e7 9. Qh5-f7 Ke7-d6 { ...[text shortened]... 11. Nb1-a3 a7-a6 12. Bc4xa6 {Possibly one of my best moves in blitz} b7xa6 13. Na3-c4
[/pgn]
22 Sep 11
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Originally posted by morgskiIn the last line you don't have the same mate available after 7...Kg8 but it still looks like a win to me because white always has the threat Ne7+ and after the queen moves back white also has the mate threat too... all white has to do is figure out where to put the rook thats en prise.
Wow. I missed a lot of thread. I leave the site for a few hours... 😉
This was my thinking for wrapping the game up, continuing the original idea:
[pgn][FEN "r6r/ppp2q2/5pkp/3pPNbR/3P2P1/5Q2/PPP5/1K5R w - - 0 1"] 1.Qd3 Qe6 {Queen would probably move so she wasn't the victim of the discovered check} 2.Nxh6 Kg7 {could put pieces in the way but would pr ieces in the way} 7.Qxc5 {And we're back to the same two options black had above} [/pgn]
22 Sep 11
Originally posted by tomtom232True, hasty analysis on my part. Would probably do Qc7 if Kg8 in the third line, which sets up the Queen-Rook mating potential after Nh6+. I think we've established between the 3 of us that black was right to resign though 🙂
In the last line you don't have the same mate available after 7...Kg8 but it still looks like a win to me because white always has the threat Ne7+ and after the queen moves back white also has the mate threat too... all white has to do is figure out where to put the rook thats en prise.