Anderrssen puzzle makes me angry

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HM

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Heh, this is "quieter" than the others, but still really nice. Funny how black is hopeless despite having such an active looking position.

k

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Originally posted by heinzkat
Another one by Anderssen (1842):

[fen]2k2b2/p1p1p3/P1Pp1N2/8/1RQ5/5pPq/4pP2/5nK1 w - -[/fen]

White to move.
I'd say 1. Qe6+ Qxe6 2. Nd7 (threatening 3. Rb8🙄 Qxd7 3. Rb8+ Kxb8 4. cxd7 e1=Q 5. d8=Q#.

W
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Originally posted by ivan2908
I was thinking about that but I couldn't see second and third move. A bit too advanced for my current combination level 🙁
and yet

...playing 4 hours daily on the beach every day for last two weeks with old people instead of watching beauties in bikinis and reading dozen of books 1700 is the least I deserve, no ?

It's really a fairly simple combination after you read the chapters on forcing moves and checkmate patterns in those books of yours.

i
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Originally posted by Wulebgr
[b]and yet

...playing 4 hours daily on the beach every day for last two weeks with old people instead of watching beauties in bikinis and reading dozen of books 1700 is the least I deserve, no ?

It's really a fairly simple combination after you read the chapters on forcing moves and checkmate patterns in those books of yours.[/b
So, what are you trying to say ? I have 1750+ rating on chess.com tactics server. But I still didn't see that combination. Maybe I didn't try well enough. Well, can you judge someone tactical abilities or genuinity (which I suspect here is the case) by only one puzzle ?

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Originally posted by ivan2908
So, what are you trying to say ? I have 1750+ rating on chess.com tactics server. But I still didn't see that combination. Maybe I didn't try well enough. Well, can you judge someone tactical abilities or genuinity (which I suspect here is the case) by only one puzzle ?
I'm only saying that missing that problem might help to diagnose the blindness that keeps you below 1800.

Why would your genuinity be suspect?

Is chess.com a credible site? I've heard they shelter Eric Shiller and other posers.

Edit: Oh yes, and your statement about bikinis and chess rating is pure poetry (I'm sorry that you removed it).

HM

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Originally posted by ivan2908
So, what are you trying to say ? I have 1750+ rating on chess.com tactics server. But I still didn't see that combination. Maybe I didn't try well enough. Well, can you judge someone tactical abilities or genuinity (which I suspect here is the case) by only one puzzle ?
You really shouldn't be so paranoid about being called a cheat: your games just aren't good enough for that. I don't mean that as an offense or anything, I'd say the same about my games too. Relax and keep playing. Leave that kind of worry for the day you reach the high 2200s here. 🙄

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Originally posted by ivan2908
Going through some tactical book... This is the exercise ;


[fen]2r1q3/pp4k1/3b1p1r/4n2p/3P1NpP/2P2pK1/PPQN4/R1B1R3 b - - 0 1[/fen]

Level 1 : Anderssen (Black, to play) has sacrificed a piece to reach this position. He concluders with a spectacular sacrifice that cuts off the king's retreat and forces mate in a few moves.

The move is pretty ...[text shortened]... couldn't find forced mate.

Aren't forced mates called forced because they are FORCED ??
So you're angry because there is a very slight mistake in 1 puzzle in the whole book?

Seriously?

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Originally posted by heinzkat
There can be only one move order; sideways lose immediately.

Anderssen (1842):

[fen]1q2r1k1/2p1bpp1/8/1r6/8/1B6/1B6/1K2Q2R w - -[/fen]

White to move.
1. Qe6 seems to win;

A) 1. ..fxe6 2. Bxe6+ Kf8 3. Rh8#;
B) 1. ..Rf8 or 1. ..Rxb3 2. Rh8+ Kxh8 3. Qh6+ Kg8 4. Qxg7#.

Trying to stop the tempo-gaining Qh6+ by means of Bf6 leads to Qxf7#.

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Not angry of course but that is second puzzle in the book and already not exactly as it's claimed. I hope the rest will not confuse me like that 😛

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IM

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
Is chess.com a credible site? I've heard they shelter Eric Shiller and other posers.
Bwahaha!

Although he may be a man of convenient scruples, he is a decent chess player.

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Originally posted by schakuhr
1. Qe6 seems to win;

A) 1. ..fxe6 2. Bxe6+ Kf8 3. Rh8#;
B) 1. ..Rf8 or 1. ..Rxb3 2. Rh8+ Kxh8 3. Qh6+ Kg8 4. Qxg7#.

Trying to stop the tempo-gaining Qh6+ by means of Bf6 leads to Qxf7#.
I'm thinking Bxf7, but there are way too many lines...

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Originally posted by heinzkat
As a form of consolation, this puzzle from Anderssen will make you happy:

[fen]r1q1r3/8/k1p5/1pK5/7R/1P6/8/4QB2 w - -[/fen]

White to move.
1. Qa5+!!

-- 1... Kxa5 2. Ra4+!! bxa4 3. b4#

-- 1... Kb7 2. Qb6#

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Moteutsch is correct, so were schakuhr, kbaumen and Heroic Metool.

Paultopia's 1. Bxf7+ doesn't work, I think. Not only you are a full Rook behind then, there is no forced mate in four (after 1. Qe6!)/compensation in the air either.

One more then, here Anderssen backranks his opponent Mayet (1851):



Black to move.

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Originally posted by heinzkat
Moteutsch is correct, so were schakuhr, kbaumen and Heroic Metool.

Paultopia's 1. Bxf7+ doesn't work, I think. Not only you are a full Rook behind then, there is no forced mate in four (after 1. Qe6!)/compensation in the air either.

One more then, here Anderssen backranks his opponent Mayet (1851):

[fen]r2qk2r/ppp2pp1/2p5/4N3/3bQ3/2P3p1/PP3PP1/RNB2RK1 b kq -[/fen]

Black to move.
1... Bxf2+
2 Rxf2 Qd1+
3 Qe1 Qxe1+
4 Rf1 Rh1+
5 Kxh1 Qxf1#