Originally posted by 29inchlegsive generaly been told keep the knight and the bishop cause 2 peices are better than one espesialy during the begginging of the game.. but at the end depending on the situation i would do it..
Is it worth exchanging a knight and a bishop for a rook in the opening couple of moves in a game? Im still trying various openings and am not entirely sure of the wisdom of this. Any ideas?
Not really good imo. You're giving up two pieces for one piece as someone stated earlier
Besides in general a Rook is worth about 5 pawns, and a Bishop or a Knight are worth about 3. So if you give up a Knight and Bishop for a Rook then basically you are losing a pawn.
But sometimes it's good to exchange, because sometimes your opponent's Rook maybe very active and/or dangerous.
Originally posted by 29inchlegsThe better you get, the better you coordinate your pieces to work well together. So I think usual two pieces are better then rook by far. Especially in the early stages of the game, when open files cannot be created and your rook is waiting on h1 20 more moves to get into the game.
Is it worth exchanging a knight and a bishop for a rook in the opening couple of moves in a game? Im still trying various openings and am not entirely sure of the wisdom of this. Any ideas?
Originally posted by duecer3 for piece. But it is not only about the material. Particular position is important. Strong knight centralized on fifth or sixth rank can be far stronger than inactive, useless rook, alone.
knight and bishop are valued at 3 or 3.5 points apiece (depending on who you ask), and a rook is worth 5. I wouldn't unless I was forcing mate.
Originally posted by 29inchlegsIt's not recommended in the opening unless it gives you a substantial attack. When making such decisions in the middlegame and/or endgame one must take into account the pawn formation as well as the weaknesses created. Hence there is no rule that you can apply that will state 'never do it'.
Is it worth exchanging a knight and a bishop for a rook in the opening couple of moves in a game? Im still trying various openings and am not entirely sure of the wisdom of this. Any ideas?
Keep in mind that a king & knight (or a king and bishop) draw against a king and rook when there are no pawns on the board.
When you add pawns then every 'rule' goes out the window and each position has to be individually analyzed.
Originally posted by 29inchlegsAs always it depends on the position but all other things being equal a Knight and a Bishop are stronger than a Rook so generally it would be good to swop off a Rook for them.
Is it worth exchanging a knight and a bishop for a rook in the opening couple of moves in a game? Im still trying various openings and am not entirely sure of the wisdom of this. Any ideas?
Unless I have strong positional reasons I would never make such an exchange and I would even hesitate swopping off a N & B for a R & P. 2 pieces are usually much better than 1, but unless it would put me into a worse position a swop of N & B for R & 2Ps would almost certainly be worth doing.
Also, winning the exchange is often highly over-rated in my opinion.
Especially if you're trading off an active knight or good bishop for their inactive rook. I'd say that often "winning" the exchange is about equal.
Therefore I reckon 9 times out of 10 trading both a N & B for R is bad news.
As everyone else has pretty much said, in the opening and middlegame especially, it is almost always not worth trading your bishop and knight for your opponent's rook (and pawn), mainly because the bishop and knight are almost always more active and better placed.
Have a look at Game 4317570, for example. My opponent traded two of his pieces, which could have helped defend against my advance on the queenside, for my rook and pawn on the kingside, which were not participating in the attack at all.
Originally posted by wittywonkaI really think that you were winning before he did that...but it was still instructive 🙂
As everyone else has pretty much said, in the opening and middlegame especially, it is almost always not worth trading your bishop and knight for your opponent's rook (and pawn), mainly because the bishop and knight are almost always more active and better placed.
Have a look at Game 4317570, for example. My opponent traded two of his pieces, wh ...[text shortened]... nside, for my rook and pawn on the kingside, which were not participating in the attack at all.