1. Standard memberKorch
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    21 May '07 12:21
    Originally posted by demonseed
    No. I mean the 29th game of the return match in 1937.
    On the return match in 1937 was 25 games at all 😀
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    21 May '07 16:051 edit
    Originally posted by Korch
    On the return match in 1937 was 25 games at all 😀
    It's listed as game 29 in my database so there must be a cataloguing error. I find it interesting that you are so intent in finding some tiny flaw that you fail to concentrate on the more important issue: actually getting one of Euwe's best games posted to show what type of a player he was.


    I believe that you are a lawyer (or more probably a para-legal) so this is probably why you let irrelevant trivialities obfuscate true understanding.

    PS

    [Event "WCh"]
    [Site "WCh"]
    [Date "1937.??.??"]
    [EventDate "?"]
    [Round "?"]
    [Result "1-0"]
    [White "Max Euwe"]
    [Black "Alexander Alekhine"]
    [ECO "D40"]
    [WhiteElo "?"]
    [BlackElo "?"]
    [PlyCount "82"]

    1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 d5 4. d4 c5 5. Bg5 cxd4 6. Nxd4 e5
    7. Nf3 d4 8. Nd5 Nc6 9. e4 Be7 10. Bxf6 Bxf6 11. b4 O-O
    12. Bd3 a5 13. a3 Be6 14. Rb1 axb4 15. axb4 Be7 16. O-O f6
    17. Qc2 Kh8 18. c5 Ra3 19. Bc4 f5 20. Nxe7 Qxe7 21. Bd5 Rc3
    22. Qd2 fxe4 23. Bxe4 Bf5 24. Bxf5 Rxf5 25. Rfe1 Rcxf3
    26. gxf3 Qh4 27. Re4 Qh3 28. Rg4 Qxf3 29. Rg3 Qe4 30. Ra1 h6
    31. b5 Ne7 32. c6 Rf8 33. Qb4 Re8 34. c7 Nd5 35. Qd6 Nf4
    36. Qd8 Ne2+ 37. Kf1 Nxg3+ 38. hxg3 Qh1+ 39. Ke2 Qh5+ 40. Kd2
    Qf7 41. Ke1 1-0

    Edit: You could have asked something about the game which would have quickly established to which one I was referring instead of being an arse. I only pointed out your errors because I am sure English is a second language and you want to improve it at all times.
  3. Standard memberKorch
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    21 May '07 17:104 edits
    Originally posted by demonseed
    It's listed as game 29 in my database so there must be a cataloguing error. I find it interesting that you are so intent in finding some tiny flaw that you fail to concentrate on the more important issue: actually getting one of Euwe's best games posted to show what type of a player he was.


    I believe that you are a lawyer (or more probably a para-lega English is a second language and you want to improve it at all times.
    Game you have posted was not played in their 1937 rematch at all 😀
    In that match Euwe have won 4 games. 1st, 5th, 13th and 17th.

    Here they are:

    [Event "wcc"]
    [Site "The Hague"]
    [Date "1937.??.??"]
    [Round "01"]
    [White "Euwe M"]
    [Black "Alekhine A"]
    [Result "1-0"]

    1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 dxc4 5.a4 Bf5 6.Ne5 Nbd7 7.Nxc4 Qc7 8.g3 e5
    9.dxe5 Nxe5 10.Bf4 Nfd7 11.Bg2 f6 12.O-O Rd8 13.Qc1 Be6 14.Ne4 Bb4
    15.a5 O-O 16.a6 bxa6 17.Nxe5 Nxe5 18.Nc5 Bxc5 19.Qxc5 g5 20.Be3 Bd5
    21.Rxa6 Bxg2 22.Kxg2 Rf7 23.Rfa1 Qd6 24.Qxd6 Rxd6 25.Rxa7 Rxa7 26.Rxa7 Nc4
    27.Bc5 Re6 28.Bd4 Rxe2 29.Bxf6 g4 30.Kf1 Rc2 31.Rg7+ Kf8 32.Rxg4 Nxb2
    33.Bxb2 Rxb2 34.Rc4 Rb6 35.Ke2 Kf7 36.Rh4 Kg6 37.Rf4 Rb3 38.Rc4 Rb6
    39.Ke3 Kf5 40.g4+ Ke6 41.f4 Kd5 42.Rd4+ Ke6 43.f5+ Ke7 44.Re4+ Kf7
    45.h4 Rb1 46.Kf4 Rc1 47.Ra4 h6 48.Ra7+ Kg8 49.g5 Rc4+ 50.Ke5 1-0

    [Event "wcc"]
    [Site "The Hague"]
    [Date "1937.??.??"]
    [Round "05"]
    [White "Euwe M"]
    [Black "Alekhine A"]
    [Result "1-0"]

    1.d4 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.Nf3 a6 4.e3 Nf6 5.Bxc4 e6 6.O-O c5 7.Qe2 Nc6
    8.Nc3 b5 9.Bb3 Be7 10.dxc5 Bxc5 11.e4 b4 12.e5 bxc3 13.exf6 gxf6 14.Qc4 Qb6
    15.Qxc3 Nd4 16.Nxd4 Bxd4 17.Ba4+ Ke7 18.Be3 Bxc3 19.Bxb6 Be5
    20.Rad1 Kf8 21.f4 Bxb2 22.Rf3 Bb7 23.Rg3 Ba3 24.Rxa3 Rg8 25.Rg3 Rxg3
    26.hxg3 Bd5 27.Bb3 Bxb3 28.axb3 Ke8 29.b4 Rb8 30.Bc5 Rc8 31.Ra1 Rc6
    32.Kf2 f5 33.Ke3 f6 34.Kd4 Kf7 35.Kc4 Kg6 36.Rd1 Kh5 37.Rd6 Rxd6
    38.Bxd6 Kg4 39.Be7 Kxg3 40.Bxf6 Kxf4 41.Kc5 1-0

    [Event "wcc"]
    [Site "Amsterdam"]
    [Date "1937.??.??"]
    [Round "13"]
    [White "Euwe M"]
    [Black "Alekhine A"]
    [Result "1-0"]

    1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 dxc4 5.a4 Bf5 6.e3 e6 7.Bxc4 Nbd7 8.Qe2 Ne4
    9.O-O Bb4 10.Bd3 Bxc3 11.Bxe4 Bb4 12.Bxf5 exf5 13.d5 cxd5 14.Qb5 Qa5
    15.Qxb7 Rb8 16.Qc6 Qc5 17.Nd4 Rb6 18.Qxc5 Nxc5 19.a5 Ra6 20.Nc2 Bxa5
    21.b4 Bxb4 22.Bb2 Ba5 23.Bxg7 Rg8 24.Be5 Nb3 25.Ra4 Rag6 26.Bg3 Bb6
    27.Rf4 h5 28.Rh4 a5 29.Rxh5 Rc6 30.Na3 d4 31.exd4 Nxd4 32.Re1+ Kd7
    33.Kf1 Rc3 34.Nb1 Rc2 35.Rd1 Kc6 36.Rh6+ Rg6 37.Rh8 Kb7 38.Rf8 Rg7
    39.Be5 Nf3 40.Rb8+ Ka7 41.Rd7+ Bc7 42.Rxc7+ Kxb8 43.Rxc2+ Nxe5
    44.Rc5 f6 45.Rxa5 Rc7 46.Nd2 Rc2 47.Rd5 Kc7 48.Ke2 Rb2 49.h3 Kc6 50.Rd4 Kc5
    51.Ke3 Ng6 52.Rd8 Ne7 53.Kd3 Rb7 54.Ke3 Rb2 55.Rd3 Nd5+ 56.Kf3 Nb4
    57.Rc3+ Kd4 58.Rb3 Rxb3+ 59.Nxb3+ Ke5 60.g3 Nc6 61.h4 Nd8 62.Nc5 Nf7
    63.Nd3+ Kd4 64.Ne1 Ke5 65.Nd3+ Ke6 66.Kf4 Nd6 67.Nc5+ Kf7 68.Nb3 1-0

    [Event "wcc"]
    [Site "The Hague"]
    [Date "1937.??.??"]
    [Round "17"]
    [White "Euwe M"]
    [Black "Alekhine A"]
    [Result "1-0"]

    1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 dxc4 5.a4 Bf5 6.e3 e6 7.Bxc4 Bb4 8.O-O O-O
    9.Qe2 Ne4 10.Bd3 Bxc3 11.bxc3 Nxc3 12.Qc2 Bxd3 13.Qxd3 Nd5 14.Ba3 Re8
    15.Rab1 b6 16.Rfc1 a5 17.Ne5 Nb4 18.Bxb4 axb4 19.Nxc6 Nxc6 20.Rxc6 e5
    21.Rxb4 exd4 22.Rxd4 Qb8 23.Qb5 Rc8 24.g3 Rxc6 25.Qxc6 h6 26.Rb4 Ra6
    27.Qb5 Qa8 28.Rd4 Qc8 29.Re4 Kh7 30.Re7 Ra5 31.Qxb6 Qc1+ 32.Kg2 Rf5
    33.Qd4 Qc2 34.e4 Rf6 35.Re5 Rc6 36.a5 Qe2 37.Qd5 Rc1 38.Qxf7 Qf1+
    39.Kf3 Qd1+ 40.Kf4 Qd2+ 41.Kg4 1-0

    Also I did not find your game among all the games in first match in 1935.

    So I can advice you to improve:

    1) your knowledge of chess history
    2) your logic
    3) your manners

    P.S. Also I can advice you to improve your chess skills, instead of talking nonsense in forums. - You did play against me horrible.
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    21 May '07 17:24
    Originally posted by Korch
    About "finding some tiny flaw" look at yourself, with your notes about my grammar.

    Game you have posted was not played in their 1937 rematch at all 😀
    In that match Euwe have won 4 games. 1st, 5th, 13th and 17th.

    Here they are:

    [Event "wcc"]
    [Site "The Hague"]
    [Date "1937.??.??"]
    [Round "01"]
    [White "Euwe M"]
    [Black "Alekhine A"]
    [Result "1-0 ...[text shortened]... s. - You did play against me horrible.
    Why don't you look at the game and decide whether it's a nice legacy instead of yet again being an arse. I already explained that's how the game is described in my database: Euwe - Alekhine Game 29 1937 World Championship so it's understandable that I would assume exactly what I assumed: I am not sure how this error happened and frankly I don't care.

    The grammar tip was merely to help you. As for you slagging off my chess play pah! At least my criticism of you is constructive (that is advising you not to use advice when you mean the verb not the noun) and not based on point-scoring: boasting about beating someone rated 500 points lower than you is pathetic even by your standards Korch.
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    21 May '07 17:26
    Originally posted by demonseed
    Why don't you look at the game and decide whether it's a nice legacy instead of yet again being an arse. I already explained that's how the game is described in my database: Euwe - Alekhine Game 29 1937 World Championship so it's understandable that I would assume exactly what I assumed: I am not sure how this error happened and frankly I don't care.

    Th ...[text shortened]... t beating someone rated 500 points lower than you is pathetic even by your standards Korch.
    Most english speaking people butcher their own language....very rare to hear someone speak perfect.
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    21 May '07 17:32
    Originally posted by Restless Soul
    Most english speaking people butcher their own language....very rare to hear someone speak perfect.
    I agree, I was only trying to be helpful though since the -ice -ise endings give you a definite rule to follow. I find that people who aren't native speakers pick these rules up really quickly.
  7. Standard memberKorch
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    21 May '07 17:42
    Originally posted by demonseed
    Why don't you look at the game and decide whether it's a nice legacy instead of yet again being an arse. I already explained that's how the game is described in my database: Euwe - Alekhine Game 29 1937 World Championship so it's understandable that I would assume exactly what I assumed: I am not sure how this error happened and frankly I don't care.

    Th ...[text shortened]... t beating someone rated 500 points lower than you is pathetic even by your standards Korch.
    Actually I only wanted to show how approximate information you have about Alekhine - Euwe matches.

    About grammar - English is my third language (behind Latvian and Russian) and as Restless_soul have noted - many english speaking people butcher their own language and I`m not sure that you are correcting all mistakes which you notice in this forum.

    About your "constructive criticism" - you edited your post deleting your personal offensive texts to me and my profession 😉

    I`m not boasting - I recommended you to waste your energy improving your play instead of discussing in forums.
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    21 May '07 19:31
    Originally posted by demonseed
    Twit, read my follow-up post.
    You mean, your even cheaper retractions? I did read it, and was not impressed by your multivocation.

    Richard
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    21 May '07 20:251 edit
    Originally posted by Korch
    Actually I only wanted to show how approximate information you have about Alekhine - Euwe matches.

    About grammar - English is my third language (behind Latvian and Russian) and as Restless_soul have noted - many english speaking people butcher their own language and I`m not sure that you are correcting all mistakes which you notice in this forum.

    About - I recommended you to waste your energy improving your play instead of discussing in forums.
    You criticised my play in a dismissive way; I corrected one grammatical error in a constructive way. Since this is pointless I suggest we end it here.

    Edit: As for lawyers I think we have to accept they are the scum of the earth and just move on.
  10. Standard memberKorch
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    21 May '07 20:32
    Originally posted by demonseed
    Edit: As for lawyers I think we have to accept they are the scum of the earth and just move on.
    I would say that stereotyped people deserves designation "scum of the earth" more than others.
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    21 May '07 20:38
    Originally posted by demonseed
    Edit: As for lawyers I think we have to accept they are the scum of the earth and just move on.
    just stop digging and step away from the shovel, sir. the hole is deep enough as it is.
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    22 May '07 00:34
    Originally posted by Korch
    I would say that stereotyped people deserves designation "scum of the earth" more than others.
    I think you mean people who stereotype.

    I am sorry it's really hard to understand you.
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    22 May '07 00:35
    Originally posted by wormwood
    just stop digging and step away from the shovel, sir. the hole is deep enough as it is.
    But it's fun. No-one wants to play anymore.
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    22 May '07 02:17
    Originally posted by demonseed
    But it's fun. No-one wants to play anymore.
    Fun why, pale face?

    EmLasker started an homage for a great human being, and
    you distorted all the thread.

    I see 3 alternatives for your behavior:
    A) you´re only a kid;
    B) you´re only an idiot;
    C) you´re an idiot kid.

    To write my posts, I use a dictionary, because I don´t know
    to speak english. No problem. Beautiful sentences and great
    knowledge don´t do you intelligent.

    Grow up.
  15. Standard memberKorch
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    22 May '07 05:22
    Originally posted by demonseed
    I think you mean people who stereotype.

    I am sorry it's really hard to understand you.
    You did understand me very well 😉
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