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z

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Unless you are talking about chess variants like Chinese Chess and Giveaway chess, the guy who can play well at blitz/speed chess will also do well under time pressure in classical chess. Otherwise Kasparov would have been humiliated in blitz and claimed no skill is involved in blitz while he held his own under classical time controls (http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1119). You seem to be arguing from a Utopian perspective, you have not heard nor seen the top players in action in both OTB/speed chess.

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Originally posted by z00t
Unless you are talking about chess variants like Chinese Chess and Giveaway chess, the guy who can play well at blitz/speed chess will also do well under time pressure in classical chess. Otherwise Kasparov would have been humiliated in blitz and claimed no skill is involved in blitz while he held his own under classical time controls (http://www.chessbase.com/ ...[text shortened]... pian perspective, you have not heard nor seen the top players in action in both OTB/speed chess.
You arguments proves only that Kasparov have good blitz skill and good skill of playing in time trouble. But it does not prove that these skills are the same.

I` know many guys who are not so universal and which level in blitz differs from level in time trouble. Also my play in time trouble is better than in blitz. I can advice you to read something about chess psychology and/or ask some GM about these things.

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Originally posted by Korch
You arguments proves only that Kasparov have good blitz skill and good skill of playing in time trouble. But it does not prove that these skills are the same.

I` know many guys who are not so universal and which level in blitz differs from level in time trouble. Also my play in time trouble is better than in blitz. I can advice you to read something about chess psychology and/or ask some GM about these things.
I have indeed spoken to the best player a certain Gary some of whose views I disagree with but I agree with his abstinence on alchohol as well as on speed chess. Even Alexander Alekhine said "The fact that a player is very short of time is, to my mind, as little to be considered an excuse as, for instance, the statement of the law-breaker that he was drunk at the time he committed the crime." -- On the Zeitnot problem.

In case you need a translation Zeitnot is time trouble.

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Originally posted by z00t
I have indeed spoken to the best player a certain Gary some of whose views I disagree with but I agree with his abstinence on alchohol as well as on speed chess. Even Alexander Alekhine said [b]"The fact that a player is very short of time is, to my mind, as little to be considered an excuse as, for instance, the statement of the law-breaker that he was drunk a ...[text shortened]... me." -- On the Zeitnot problem.

In case you need a translation Zeitnot is time trouble.[/b]
I agree with Alekhine, but his statement is not in conflict with opinion that blitz and time trouble is not the same.

P.S. Your timebank is depleting in our game. So you have reason to spend more time on your game instead of forums.

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Originally posted by z00t
I have indeed spoken to the best player a certain Gary some of whose views I disagree with but I agree with his abstinence on alchohol as well as on speed chess. Even Alexander Alekhine said [b]"The fact that a player is very short of time is, to my mind, as little to be considered an excuse as, for instance, the statement of the law-breaker that he was drunk a ...[text shortened]... me." -- On the Zeitnot problem.

In case you need a translation Zeitnot is time trouble.[/b]
Alekhine also stated that 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 was wrong for white in the Sicilian 😕

anyways, isn't this thread supposed to be about b4?

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Originally posted by YUG0slav
Alekhine also stated that 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 was wrong for white in the Sicilian 😕

anyways, isn't this thread supposed to be about b4?
You have just witnessed typical z00t trollery.

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Here's my attempt to use it against 1.Nf3 - transposing to what I'd expect after 1.g3:

[Event "Rated game, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Main Playing Hall"]
[Date "2007.06.25"]
[Round "?"]
[White "brussels"]
[Black "CMSMaster"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "1396"]
[BlackElo "1373"]
[PlyCount "70"]
[EventDate "2007.06.25"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. Nf3 {2} b5 {1} 2. d4 {0} a6 {3} 3. g3 {2} Bb7 {1} 4. Bg2 {0} Nf6 {3} 5. O-O
{1} e6 {2} 6. Re1 {15} c5 {1} 7. e3 {2} cxd4 {3} 8. e4 {3} Bc5 {3} 9. e5 {7}
Ng4 {5} 10. h3 {5} Nh6 {2} 11. g4 {6} Qc7 {17} 12. Bxh6 {2} gxh6 {2} 13. Qd2 {4
} h5 {3} 14. Qh6 {2} hxg4 {5} 15. hxg4 {1} Rg8 {8} 16. Qxh7 {5} Rxg4 {3} 17.
Qh8+ {3} Ke7 {8} 18. Qf6+ {12} Ke8 {6} 19. Ng5 {2} Rxg2+ {6} 20. Kf1 {3} d6 {35
} 21. Nxf7 {36} Qxf7 {6} 22. Qh8+ {7} Qf8 {5} 23. Qxf8+ {7} Kxf8 {1} 24. exd6 {
1} d3 {8} 25. Rxe6 {13} Rxf2+ {2} 26. Ke1 {5} Bg2 {12} 27. Nd2 {13} Re2+ {13}
28. Rxe2 {11} dxe2 {1} 29. Kxe2 {0} Bxd6 {1} 30. Ne4 {2} Be5 {2} 31. Nf2 {2}
Bxb2 {2} 32. Rb1 {1} Bd4 {1} 33. Rg1 {1} Bxf2 {1} 34. Kxf2 {2} Bb7 {' 2} 35.
Rh1 {1} Ke7 {Tijd (Lag: Av=0.25s, max=0.4s) . 2} 0-1

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
Here's my attempt to use it against 1.Nf3 - transposing to what I'd expect after 1.g3:

[Event "Rated game, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Main Playing Hall"]
[Date "2007.06.25"]
[Round "?"]
[White "brussels"]
[Black "CMSMaster"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "1396"]
[BlackElo "1373"]
[PlyCount "70"]
[EventDate "2007.06.25"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. Nf3 {2} b5 ...[text shortened]... Bb7 {' 2} 35.
Rh1 {1} Ke7 {Tijd (Lag: Av=0.25s, max=0.4s) . 2} 0-1
6.c5 is a mistake. Its not terrible, but it's better to play d6, Nd7, and Be7 then c5