i've only been playing here for a few months (i used to play on gameknot), and one of the things i've noticed is that the most common strategem here on this site (it's happened in 20% of my games) is that when it's clear you can no longer win you just perpetually put the player who is about to win in check so taht they may not deliver the final blow. now, i know there's the loophole about making the same move three times in a row (of course, going for that when you've really lost is completely unsportsmanly), but this is taking place in situation where the other player can't force the same move over and over. it's just indefinate stalling.
is there some way i can get redhotpawn to interfere? i have a game that's gone on fifteen extra moves of them putting me in check with the queen, i move out of check they move queen to put me in check. this is not a strategy because there is no mate for them to reach, they just keep moving the same piece back and forth back and forth back and forth to delay their losing of the game praying on reaching a stalemate.
this kind of strategy should be prohibited. it doesn't seem to be, but i wanted everyone else's thoughts on it or suggestions. as much as i see it, i can't be the only one having it happen to them.
when i lose a game i accept my loss by either resigning or trying for a miracle win. these players aren't trying for a miracle win, they're just stretching the game out indefinatley in hopes of hitting a loophole that might let them feel like they didn't lose a match they did.
any thoughts?
Originally posted by lightfallsupAhha. There is a flaw in your understanding..
i've only been playing here for a few months (i used to play on gameknot), and one of the things i've noticed is that the most common strategem here on this site (it's happened in 20% of my games) is that when it's clear you can no longer win you just perpetually put the player who is about to win in check so taht they may not deliver the final blow. n ...[text shortened]... that might let them feel like they didn't lose a match they did.
any thoughts?
"i know there's the loophole about making the same move three times in a row (of course, going for that when you've really lost is completely unsportsmanly)"
First off, attempting to salvange a lost game by drawing is unsportsmanlike? If I am down 8-0 in a game of baseball, should I just resign? That said, down a queen I usually resign, down 1 minor piece, it depends on if I have counterplay.
Finally the real point... It is not the same move three times in a row. It is the same position on the board (same castling rights, same person to move) three times at ANY point in the game, they do not have to be back to back (to back).
I can appreciate your frustration, but this is all legal AND ethical. If the situation were reversed and you had the opportunity to draw instead of losing, would you not take it? It happens all the time among any chessplayers worth their salt: They find themselves in a bad position, stop playing for the win, and look for the draw, AND they should be commended when they find it.
What's more annoying is when you're beating someone up badly & they take the absolute maximum to make any move whatsoever.
Say you're a whole piece up & about to enter the endgame & they push their king around after 3 days between moves.
No doubt hoping you'll resign the game in disgust!
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I think lightfallsups opponent is a clever player who, in a inferior position, can force a draw.
I've done that a few times and my opponents have also manage to make a draw by 3rd position repetition rule. Not a bit unsporty, just clever.
The rules are clear. By whining over players using this rule is, however, not a very good sportmanship.
...if you ask me...
Originally posted by lightfallsupWhat you call loopholes, the rest of us call "rules of chess that have been established for over a century." What you call "a game they really lost," the rest of us call a "draw."
i've only been playing here for a few months (i used to play on gameknot), and one of the things i've noticed is that the most common strategem here on this site (it's happened in 20% of my games) is that when it's clear you can no longer win you just perpetually put the player who is about to win in check so taht they may not deliver the final blow. n that might let them feel like they didn't lose a match they did.
any thoughts?
These are not strategies or tactics that should be prohibited, nor are they loopholes. The rule of triple repetition is not "unsportsmanlike," because if the best move is a move that stops you from winning, then that's what your opponent should play! These rules are, in fact, very important parts of chess.
Edit: While we're not supposed to talk about games in progress, looking over your games...well, you know, there are plenty of times where you can prevent your opponent from just checking you again and again and win the game a little later.
Originally posted by lightfallsupIf it happens to you in 20% of your games, you must be doing something wrong. Your opponent can't do that to you if you don't let xym.
i've only been playing here for a few months (i used to play on gameknot), and one of the things i've noticed is that the most common strategem here on this site (it's happened in 20% of my games) is that when it's clear you can no longer win you just perpetually put the player who is about to win in check so taht they may not deliver the final blow.
Originally posted by lightfallsupThey forced a draw and you are complaining, yes ?
i've only been playing here for a few months (i used to play on gameknot), and one of the things i've noticed is that the most common strategem here on this site (it's happened in 20% of my games) is that when it's clear you can no longer win you just perpetually put the player who is about to win in check so taht they may not deliver the final blow. n ...[text shortened]... that might let them feel like they didn't lose a match they did.
any thoughts?
Do they have draws on gameknot ?
Originally posted by dmnelson84To put in links to a game type (without the spaces): [ gid ] 2875833 [ / gid ] and you will get Game 2875833. Nice draw btw - I imagine your opponent was quite cross about that 😉
I just did that to a player far superior to me.
http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/playchess.php?gameid=2875833