10 Oct 21
@drewnogal saidI have mixed feelings about boxing, but Manchester...
Do I take it you are against boxing? I would understand that. My fleeting interest was through another person who was following the recent pre fight videos. Tyson, sorry Fury!! is a likeable character, quite an entertainer. I do worry that he’ll eventually do himself some serious damage but how can a reigning boxing champion ever walk away from this sport without getting harmed?
More seriously I remember reading an article in the BMJ years ago that demonstrated that enzymes that should only be found in brain cells are detectable in the blood by the second round of a boxing match so there is definite damage to some brain cells every fight.
On the one hand people who participate in sport know that there is a good chance they will be hurt or injured in the long run. The state of the knees of ex professional footballers, possible association between heading the ball and Alzheimer's disease etc. They know this and it's their body and they have the right to chose what they do with it.
On the other hand the commercial side of sport has become massive and these days there are very wealthy individuals and companies making millions out of pushing working class lads into fights with increasingly and unnaturally powerful hitters and some will be on a conveyor belt that they can't get off just because of the circumstances they were born into. Of course most of the people with the big money haven't had to put their bodies on the line.
I knew somebody who was an Olympic prospect but they described being told that they had to introduce steroids at that point in their training to reach their potential. It was a good illustration of how hard it was to say no to something they hadn't ever intended to do or realised they were headed towards.
10 Oct 21
@Relentless-Red
That on the enzymes sounds terrifying, as does what’s recently been going on in Manchester.
My son’s dad introduced him to boxing at about 10? Luckily he hated it.
@drewnogal saidThe best counter argument I heard was about the good that the gyms do in the local community getting young people engaged in a healthy channel for aggression. But how healthy is it? I think all sport in general needs to address the drugs issue. In boxing it is really dangerous as the punches get more and more unnaturally powerful. It's doing harm to people in a lot of other sports as well. When I said that of course most of the people with the big money haven't had to put their bodies on the line I should have added that most of the people doing harm to their bodies won't see any of the money. When I was still at junior school I was proud of being given my cousins boxing gloves, but thankfully I never got into using them.
@Relentless-Red
That on the enzymes sounds terrifying, as does what’s recently been going on in Manchester.
My son’s dad introduced him to boxing at about 10? Luckily he hated it.
10 Oct 21
@relentless-red saidPro Boxing is where much damage is done to the brain.
I have mixed feelings about boxing, but Manchester...
More seriously I remember reading an article in the BMJ years ago that demonstrated that enzymes that should only be found in brain cells are detectable in the blood by the second round of a boxing match so there is definite damage to some brain cells every fight.
Look at what happened to ali. Muhammad Ali was an American professional boxer, activist, entertainer, poet, and philanthropist. Nicknamed The Greatest, he is widely regarded as one of the most significant and celebrated figures of the 20th century, and is frequently ranked as the best heavyweight boxer of all time. Wikipedia
I think he was the best all around fighter of all time, in my humble opinion.
-VR
10 Oct 21
@very-rusty saidThe topic is "The Big", not "The Greatest".
Pro Boxing is where much damage is done to the brain.
Look at what happened to ali. Muhammad Ali was an American professional boxer, activist, entertainer, poet, and philanthropist. Nicknamed The Greatest, he is widely regarded as one of the most significant and celebrated figures of the 20th century, and is frequently ranked as the best heavyweight boxer of all time. Wikipedia
I think he was the best all around fighter of all time, in my humble opinion.
-VR
10 Oct 21
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@suzianne saidWhen have you seen a thread stay on Topic suzianne?
The topic is "The Big", not "The Greatest".
My post was in reply to what r-r said.
-VR
11 Oct 21
@very-rusty saidCertainly one of the cleverest. It was tragic to see him with Parkinson's disease.
Pro Boxing is where much damage is done to the brain.
Look at what happened to ali. Muhammad Ali was an American professional boxer, activist, entertainer, poet, and philanthropist. Nicknamed The Greatest, he is widely regarded as one of the most significant and celebrated figures of the 20th century, and is frequently ranked as the best heavyweight boxer of all time. Wikipedia
I think he was the best all around fighter of all time, in my humble opinion.
-VR
11 Oct 21
@relentless-red saidIt certainly was, I think he should have quit while he was on top.
Certainly one of the cleverest. It was tragic to see him with Parkinson's disease.
Many Pro boxers fight too long and do more harm to themselves.
-VR