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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Heartily recommended.





~~~GB 😏 SOA~~
I got that from a wise old man. 🙂


Desperation. Honestly. Admit it. The time has come.

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Originally posted by Ice Cold
Job #1 in chess is not to lose.
Job #1 in chess is to win.

Job #2 in chess is not to lose.

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Originally posted by Fleabitten
Job #1 in chess is to win.

Job #2 in chess is not to lose.
job #1 in chess is the opening move 😏

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Originally posted by Fleabitten
Job #1 in chess is to win.

Job #2 in chess is not to lose.
You have that backwards, first you must not lose, because if you lose you can't win. Try and keep up Flea. 😞

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If I play to win and not not lose, then even if I lose, I win because I have the moral victory of knowing I have not played to not be lost. It's really quite clear.

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Originally posted by Fleabitten
If I play to win and not not lose, then even if I lose, I win because I have the moral victory of knowing I have not played to not be lost. It's really quite clear.
OK win or lose I'm stuck here.



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Originally posted by Fleabitten
If I play to win and not not lose, then even if I lose, I win because I have the moral victory of knowing I have not played to not be lost. It's really quite clear.
Two-valued semantic mindsets ignore tertium quid options. Winning or losing represent only two viable outcomes of the noble game.

An extraordinarily high percentage of all grandmaster games reach a different conclusion, because both white and black have bought

into an alternative paradigm which reflects their collective realism. These patient giants see further and know better than to attempt,

irresponsibly, to escalate any likely and legitimate positionally bound draw. They accept the authority of external competitive reality...

Job #1 for the intrepid is to avoid 'L' to keep both 'D' and 'W' possibilities open. We're handicapped by impatience and myopic greed.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
We're handicapped by impatience and myopic greed.[/b]
A large brush there GB and YOU know this how?

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Job #1 for the intrepid is to avoid 'L' to keep both 'D' and 'W' possibilities open. We're handicapped by impatience and myopic greed.[/b]
We'll have to agree to disagree. My aim from the outset is victory (Job #1) and nothing less. It is only after the game has progressed to the point that I am satisfied that my opponent has demonstrated their equality or superiority that I will shift gears to Job #2 and play to draw (not lose).

Edit: I don't ignore the 'tertium quid option'. I merely delay considering it until I feel it warrants consideration.

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Originally posted by Fleabitten
We'll have to agree to disagree. My aim from the outset is victory (Job #1) and nothing less. It is only after the game has progressed to the point that I am satisfied that my opponent has demonstrated their equality or superiority that I will shift gears to Job #2 and play to draw (not lose).

Edit: I don't ignore the 'tertium quid option'. I merely delay considering it until I feel it warrants consideration.
Let's bridge the conceptual divide (which may well be at the word level)

with a common ground proposition: Objective #1 = W. Job #1 = no L.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Let's bridge the conceptual divide (which may well be at the word level)

with a common ground proposition: [b]Objective #1 = W. Job #1 = no L.
[/b]
A fair and equitable resolution.

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Well, GBS, please permit me to preface the answer wiith a forgotten Robert Frost atypical two liner in light verse, "It takes a lot of in and outdoor schoolin / to get accustomed to my kind of foolin." With respect to chess, that schooling began at age nine at a kitchen table not too far from Boston with my benevolent Swedish Uncle Len (who just celebrated his 92nd birthday) and in earnest with five world class mentors (E.M. Reubens, Ben Landey, Kermit Pransky, Edmund Brown, Tigran Shaack) during the decade of my twenties.

Should you be interested in reading the two biographical articles by Bernardo Inglesias on Russian born Emil Reubens and his son in law Ben Landey, simply google... Boylston Chess Club/Reubens. then click top of the page 'Weblog U2200 BCC Championship. ~gb

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Originally posted by Fleabitten
A fair and equitable resolution.
Double postscript, Flea: (1) Though my rhp win percent is still disgustingly modest,

draws since July, 2007, do exceed my losses by 20%. Mr.Reubens would be proud.



*Here are a few 'Sticky Thread' conversation pertinent chess quotes from my profile:


"You need not play well, just help your opponent to play badly." -Genrikh Chepukaitis.

“The tactician must know what to do whenever something needs doing; the strategist

must know what to do when nothing needs doing” -Tartakover. “Only the player with

the initiative has the right to attack” -Wilhelm Steinitz.
“Chess simulates life” -anon.


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(2) 2009 NFL Week #6 my perfomance index stats suggest eight favorites (Cinc, Minn,

NO, Phil, Seat, Nyje, NE, Atl) and six underdogs (kc, cleve, stls, tb, detr and denv).



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How many points are you giving up with NO?

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