robbie is this all true?

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Treat Everyone Equal

Halifax, Nova Scotia

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09 Aug 16

Sir,
This is something I came across on the internet. I know we can't trust everything we read on the internet. So, I would like to ask you being you are a JW. Are these things true?

141 Things Jehovah Witnesses Can’t Do
141 Rules. Things Jehovah’s Witnesses Can’t Do.

1.Belong to another organization or club for the purpose of socializing with nonbelievers.
2.Have best friends and activity buddies who are not Jehovah’s Witnesses.
3.Associate with people outside their organization when it is not necessary.
4.Attend social functions sponsored by their employer unless attendance is required
5.Associate with coworkers after business hours in a social settings
6.Disagree with their organization’s rules and code of conduct.
7.Disagree with their organization’s doctrines.
8.Contribute to the Presidential Campaign Fund on their tax return
9.Join the armed forces and defend their country
10.Say the Pledge of Allegiance
11.Salute the flag
12.Vote
13.Run for leadership in their organization. (JW’s are ‘appointed’ and invited to be leaders.)
14.Run for leadership in any organization 15.Take a stand for any political issue inside their organization
16.Take a stand on any political or ‘worldly’ issue outside of their organization
17.Campaign for a political candidate
18.Hold political office
19.Discuss politics
20.Be a union steward or shop steward
21.Actively be involved in a union strike
22.Use a gun for protection against humans
23.Become a police officer if a gun is required
24.Wear military uniforms or clothing associated with war
25.Take yoga classes and practice the discipline of yoga.
26.Smoke tobacco and cigars 27.Work full time selling tobacco and cigars
28.Attend Alcoholics Anonymous
29.Donate blood
30.Have blood transfusions
31.Read books, magazines, publications, and literature from other religions.
32.Buy anything from a church store
33.Buy something at a church garage sale
34.Donate items to a church run store
35.Shop at the Salvation Army
36.Work for the Salvation Army
37.Work for another church
38.Play competitive sports on a school team
39.Play competitive sports professionally
40.Run for class president
41.Become a cheerleader
42.Go to the school prom or school dance.
43.Attend class reunions
44.Be hypnotized
45.Accept Jesus as their mediator
46.Join the Boy Scouts
47.Join the Girl Guides
48.Join the YMCA
49.Serve on jury duty
50.Study psychology, philosophy, sociology, and viewpoints that might shake their faith
51.Attend other Christian churches
52.Attend nondenominational churches
53.Attend non Christian churches
54.Get married in another church
55.Dating non believers is discouraged
56.Casual dating is discouraged
57.Dating someone without the intent of getting married
58.Having sex before marriage
59.Breaking an engagement, separation, and ‘unscriptural’ divorce may result in disciplinary action
60.Marriage to non believers is not recommended
61.Be gay or lesbian. Homosexuality is not acceptable.
62.Throw rice at a wedding
63.Get divorced unless the reason is adultery
64.Can’t remarry unless their ex commits fornication first
65.Toast drinks
66.Buy a raffle ticket
67.Play bingo
68.Gamble
69.Sing any holiday songs
70.Sing the National Anthem.
71.Celebrate Christmas – Why?
72.Celebrate New Years Eve – Why?
73.Celebrate Easter – Why?
74.Celebrate Mother’s Day – Why?
75.Celebrate Father’s Day
76.Celebrate birthdays – Why?
77.Celebrate Thanksgiving
78.Celebrate Flag Day
79.Celebrate Veteran’s Day
80.Celebrate Independence Day. Why?
81.Celebrate Saint Patrick’s Day
82.Celebrate Valentine’s Day
83.Celebrate Halloween – Why?
84.Celebrate Hanukkah
85.Accept holiday gifts – Why?
86.Celebrate any holiday except the death of Jesus – Why?
87.Partake in the bread and wine that represents Christ unless they are part of the 144,000
88.Make holiday artwork for school
89.Engage in holiday parties at school
90.Take on a leadership role in school
91.Porneia
92.Do suggestive and immodest dancing in a public place
93.Attend a class, workshop, or seminar, sponsored by another church 94.Attend social events or fund raisers sponsored by another church
95.Use of bad language (curse words) is discouraged
96.Wear blue jeans, shorts, and overly casual clothing at the Kingdom Hall. See Dress Code
97.Wear pants at a Kingdom Hall if you’re a woman
98.Wear revealing clothes or skirts that are too short (looked down upon)
99.Wear long hair or facial hair if you’re a man (depends on the local customs of the country you live in)
100.Body piercing are discouraged
101.Tattoos are discouraged
102.State or imply that the Watchtower is not run by Jehovah God.
103.Have discussions and express Bible based viewpoints that contradict the organization’s beliefs
104.Say anything negative about their organization. JW’s must ‘speak in agreement’ and be ‘like-minded’.
105.Consider other religious beliefs as valid and truthful.
106.Acknowledge any prayer spoken by a non believer as valid
107.Take another Jehovah’s Witness to court (with exceptions)
108.Wear or own a cross
109.Own any religious picture
110.Own any religious statue
111.Engage in idolatry
112.Believe in miracles (except those found in the Bible)
113.Believe in ghosts
114.Witchcraft
115.Black magic
116.White magic
117.Consult with a psychic or become one
118.Study tarot cards, get a reading or give a reading
119.Study numerology or get a reading
120.Dabble in ESP (extrasensory perception), dowsing, or divination
121.Use a tool such as a pendulum to access information from the spiritual realm
122.Attempt to communicate with departed spirits.
123.Attend a seance
124.Believe in good luck or say things such as ‘Good luck to you’. Why?
125.Believe or say anything superstitious
126.Prophesy
127.Speaking in tongues
128.Laying on of hands
129.Energy healing such as Reiki
130.Read their horoscope
131.Study astrology or zodiac signs
132.Combat training, boxing, or martial arts
133.Go to heaven unless they are part of the 144,000
134.Worship Jesus as God
135.Idolize any celebrity or love and admire them to excess
136.Women can’t be elders
137.Women can’t be ministerial servants (assistants to the elders)
138.Divulge secret information to enemies and those not entitled to know.
139.Greet or talk with disfellowshipped persons (with some exceptions)
140.Associate with disfellowshipped persons except for immediate family living in the same house
141.Keep secrets from the organization. Jehovah’s Witnesses report friends and family members breaking the rules

Five More Things Jehovah’s Witnesses Can’t Do.
1.Women cannot assume the role of a male and instruct the congregation.
2.A woman should not pray in the presence of a baptized male JW.
3.Jehovah’s Witnesses can’t be part of this world. They must be separate from the world
4.They can’t believe anything former Jehovah’s Witnesses say, – even if it’s factual.
5.Unless they’re an Elder, Jehovah’s Witnesses can’t read this book, – ‘Shepherd the Flock of God’

(ref: The JehovahWitnesses.org)

If someone can provide me with a list of Things Jehovah Witnesses CAN DO, I’d be very grateful. Seems to me Jehovah Witnesses lives are controlled completely by The Watchtower Society/Governing Body – made up of all men by the way (as a side note). In fact all the churches were comparing on this blog have leaders who are made up of all men! Huh… something to ponder! I don’t have an ax to grind with men, just making a point.

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Fast and Curious

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09 Aug 16

Originally posted by Very Rusty
Sir,
This is something I came across on the internet. I know we can't trust everything we read on the internet. So, I would like to ask you being you are a JW. Are these things true?

141 Things Jehovah Witnesses Can’t Do
141 Rules. Things Jehovah’s Witnesses Can’t Do.

1.Belong to another organization or club for the purpose of socializing wit ...[text shortened]... of all men! Huh… something to ponder! I don’t have an ax to grind with men, just making a point.
I gargled JW's in sports and there is a pretty good list of pro JW's, including Venus and Serena Williams as you probably know, tennis greats. And a lot more.

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09 Aug 16

Originally posted by Very Rusty
Sir,
This is something I came across on the internet. I know we can't trust everything we read on the internet. So, I would like to ask you being you are a JW. Are these things true?

141 Things Jehovah Witnesses Can’t Do
141 Rules. Things Jehovah’s Witnesses Can’t Do.

1.Belong to another organization or club for the purpose of socializing wit ...[text shortened]... of all men! Huh… something to ponder! I don’t have an ax to grind with men, just making a point.
Dude, I thought you were all for posting things in the appropriate forum?


That list was posted in the spirituality forum eons ago and was mostly debunked. (As much as I would like to yank Robbie's chain).

Read a book!

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Originally posted by sonhouse
I gargled JW's in sports and there is a pretty good list of pro JW's, including Venus and Serena Williams as you probably know, tennis greats. And a lot more.
Aren't Venus and Serena violating Rule 39?

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Originally posted by HandyAndy
Aren't Venus and Serena violating Rule 39?
And most likely Rule 98. 🙂

Treat Everyone Equal

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Dude, I thought you were all for posting things in the appropriate forum?


That list was posted in the spirituality forum eons ago and was mostly debunked. (As much as I would like to yank Robbie's chain).
Ghost of Duke,
I don't post or view the Spirituality forums. I see no reason I can't ask the question here. IF robbie can post a chess problem, then why can't I post this? Not something I would want to be a part of if all 141 things are TRUE!!!

Regards,
-VR

rc

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The people have spoken Crusty old bean and you should not have posted your list of fictitious items here. I really cannot be bothered going through them all and debunking them again and again and again, its a very tedious affair. If you want to know about the beliefs of Jehovahs witnesses go to jw.org and thats all i am prepared to say on the matter.

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Originally posted by Very Rusty
Ghost of Duke,
I don't post in the Spirituality forums. I see no reason I can't ask the question here. IF robbie can post a chess problem, then why can't I post this?

Regards,
-VR
That was my point sir. You challenged the posting of a chess problem in the GF and then proceed to bring in religion.

Kindest regards
Hope you get a halo

Duke of a walrus

Treat Everyone Equal

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
That was my point sir. You challenged the posting of a chess problem in the GF and then proceed to bring in religion.

Kindest regards
Hope you get a halo

Duke of a walrus
Nothing was done about that posting, so I guess it doesn't matter where you post what ever topic you want. Go look, unless a Moderator removed it since then, but it was there for days!! When the page flips I may repost it again! 😛

Regards,
-VR

Treat Everyone Equal

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
The people have spoken Crusty old bean and you should not have posted your list of fictitious items here. I really cannot be bothered going through them all and debunking them again and again and again, its a very tedious affair. If you want to know about the beliefs of Jehovahs witnesses go to jw.org and thats all i am prepared to say on the matter.
robbie,
So as usual you are dodging the question. Too many hard ones there for you to answer, I can see why you wouldn't want to. 😛 How about how many have you broken? Willing to answer that one? By the way I don't think people have finished speaking, watch you manners, sir. 😉

Regards,
-VR

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
The people have spoken Crusty old bean and you should not have posted your list of fictitious items here. I really cannot be bothered going through them all and debunking them again and again and again, its a very tedious affair. If you want to know about the beliefs of Jehovahs witnesses go to jw.org and thats all i am prepared to say on the matter.
The truth will out.

Read a book!

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Note Rule 2: Have best friends and activity buddies (e.g., Easy Riders) who are not Jehovah’s Witnesses.

rc

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Originally posted by Great Big Stees
The truth will out.
yes it will but I can hardly remember the last time I was called upon to refrain from divulging secret information to my enemies and those not entitled to know.🙄

Rule 138.

rc

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Originally posted by HandyAndy
Note Rule 2: Have best friends and activity buddies (e.g., Easy Riders) who are not Jehovah’s Witnesses.
you're my friend aren't you Andrew, your endearng use of terms like ,'you're vermin', has convinced me of it! 😀

rc

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Originally posted by Very Rusty
robbie,
So as usual you are dodging the question. Too many hard ones there for you to answer, I can see why you wouldn't want to. 😛 How about how many have you broken? Willing to answer that one? By the way I don't think people have finished speaking, watch you manners, sir. 😉

Regards,
-VR
Rusty as the people have said its been posted before, probably three times or more to my knowledge. If you want to know about any specifics I will be more than happy to explain but I am certainly not wasting my time debunking the false or explaining the basis for those that may be true.

You have no interest in the beliefs of Jehovahs witnesses you are simply using my religious convictions in an attempt to to vilify me because quite frankly I am too brilliant to be caught by regular means.