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Originally posted by adam warlockWhat would you do? Presumably, adam, you would also screen out their posts if you were in the same Debate Forum as them. That would really show them what's what in a rough world.
when your land is robbed,
when your trees are uprooted,
when your rights are ignored,
when you are discriminated,
when your livelihood is denied,
when your children are endangered?
You fight, you resist, you protest.
Originally posted by adam warlockbut once said resistance has succeeded and you are now the tribe with all the power, do you then proceed to
when your land is robbed,
when your trees are uprooted,
when your rights are ignored,
when you are discriminated,
when your livelihood is denied,
when your children are endangered?
You fight, you resist, you protest.
My new heroes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkUiziuGG5Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmMjci6uB9s&feature=player_embedded
Originally posted by MelanerpesTribe?
but once said resistance has succeeded and you are now the tribe with all the power, do you then proceed to
rob land of others,
uproot trees of others,
ignore the rights of others,
discriminate against others,
deny the livelihood of others,
endanger the children of others?
Or would you treat those less powerful than yourself with justice and compassion, even if it would be more beneficial for your tribe to ruthlessly exploit the weak?
Originally posted by adam warlocktribe = family, group, clique, ethnic group, class group, religious body, political organization, or whatever other social organizations humans form.
Tribe?
Originally posted by adam warlockMy point is that it's easy to romanticize the "oppressed people" while demonizing the "oppressors". And it's easy to excuse anything these oppressed people do as merely "resisting the oppressor". The message seems to be that if only we could somehow liberate and empower those "oppressed peoples", we'll usher in a golden age of equality in which no one ever oppresses anyone ever again.
Is this really the "point" you're trying to make?
Dare I ask: What tribe is your tribe currently exploiting and killing so that they don't become the oppressors of tomorrow?
Originally posted by adam warlockThis is my new hero:
when your land is robbed,
when your trees are uprooted,
when your rights are ignored,
when you are discriminated,
when your livelihood is denied,
when your children are endangered?
You fight, you resist, you protest.
My new heroes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkUiziuGG5Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmMjci6uB9s&feature=player_embedded
Originally posted by MelanerpesI guess that's a point all right... 😕 Let us oppress today so that our oppressed of today aren't the oppressors of tomorrow. 😕
My point is that it's easy to romanticize the "oppressed people" while demonizing the "oppressors". And it's easy to excuse anything these oppressed people do as merely "resisting the oppressor". The message seems to be that if only we could somehow liberate and empower those "oppressed peoples", we'll usher in a golden age of equality in which no one eve ...[text shortened]... nians proceed to oppress everyone who didn't adhere to their religion and culture?
Originally posted by adam warlockThe only way to end the never-ending chain of peoples oppressing other peoples is for some "superpower" to step in and put the boot to enough necks until everyone agrees not to oppress each other.
I guess that's a point all right... 😕 Let us oppress today so that our oppressed of today aren't the oppressors of tomorrow. 😕
Whose neck are you putting your boot on, by the way?
Originally posted by MelanerpesCan you provide an argument that backs up this bold assertion of yours?
The only way to end the never-ending chain of peoples oppressing other peoples is for some "superpower" to step in and put the boot to enough necks until everyone agrees not to oppress each other.
Originally posted by adam warlockI claim that my assertion is self-evident.
Can you provide an argument that backs up this bold assertion of yours?
Edit: I never knew there was so many people liking Adam Warlock...