Originally posted by KellyJay
I wonder if justice will be served with her with this administration?

yeh, cop shoots unarmed 12 year old, bank executives crash the economy and not only they don't go to jail but are given golden parachutes but Hillary's emails are what concerns you.

Originally posted by whodey
Hillary wants you to know RJ that a vote for her is a real vote for hope and change, and not like the fake hope and change offered us in 2008

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/hillary-clinton-deja-vu-critics-175618707.html

Hillary wants you to know that she is not really in the pockets of corporations because, like Trump, she is already crazy rich and does ...[text shortened]... 2016.

So there you have it, if Trump says its so then you have to obey.

Vote Hillary! 😵

Trump in 2012 was biased toward the clintons because he considered them good friends. They came to his wedding. He did mention at that time that Benghazi should be a problem, but that it did not look like it would be. This is what Trump said about Clinton in 2012

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But as more information about what she did as Secretary of State, Trump's opinion ofher job as Secretary of State changed as it should have.

Donald Trump’s change of heart on Hillary Clinton

07/08/15 02:20 PM—Updated 07/08/15 05:54 PM

By Alex Seitz-Wald

In a new interview with NBC News, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump slammed Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton as “the worst secretary of state in the history of the United States.”

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trumps-change-heart-hillary-clinton

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I gather Bill likes Hillary Clinton, though off-hand I cannot think of any others around here who have a high regard for Hillary. My visits to this forum are spotty. Around the Internet in general, though, I hear many speak of her being "battle-tested", "commanding", and "strong-willed"; and perhaps the fact that she has those (perceived) attributes while also being a woman just makes it all the more appealing for some.

For many, of course, there's an even simpler motivation for rooting for Hillary: she's a woman, and it's time to have a woman for president.

It would be great to have a woman for president. But my first choice would be someone like Elizabeth Warren.

Originally posted by Soothfast
I gather Bill likes Hillary Clinton, though off-hand I cannot think of any others around here who have a high regard for Hillary. My visits to this forum are spotty. Around the Internet in general, though, I hear many speak of her being "battle-tested", "commanding", and "strong-willed"; and perhaps the fact that she has those (perceived) attributes whil ...[text shortened]... reat to have a woman for president. But my first choice would be someone like Elizabeth Warren.

Have you seen any poll suggesting this would be a major motivation for people to vote for Clinton?

Originally posted by Soothfast
For many, of course, there's an even simpler motivation for rooting for Hillary: she's a woman, and it's time to have a woman for president.

I think it highly unlikely that that would be a motivation for many.

My own opinion (I'm not an american so it doesn't really count) is as follows:
1. I wouldn't want Trump for obvious reasons, or any of the other republican nut cases.
2. That basically leaves Clinton or Sanders. So its not really about do I like Clinton vs anyone else, its just Clinton or Sanders.
3. I dislike Clinton largely because she represents the established, moneyed, 'family business' politician. She appears to be the front runner for no other reason than she has been in the game for so long and she has all the right connections.
4. In reality I have not seen much of her and don't know much about her, but she does seem confident and competent.
5. I like Sanders policies as I lean towards socialism myself. It appears however that he has either not thought a lot of them through or has failed to publicize his solutions effectively. Clinton has the advantage that she doesn't need to explain any of her policies because she would stick with business as usual. Sanders on the other hand has to demonstrate that his policies are actually viable.
6. Sanders seems a bit wishy washy about international policies (and as a foreigner that's actually more important to me).
7. Sanders seems very old and does not give an air of confidence. These are both very bad reasons for not liking someone but they do put me off. The US gives the impression that the president runs everything (not entirely true, but they do push the myth) and so personality does count.
If I was american I would be undecided at this point. I would want Sanders' general ideas but a different figure head to implement them.

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Have you seen any poll suggesting this would be a major motivation for people to vote for Clinton?

Hillary has always polled very strongly with women, especially older women, which I take to be an indication that some fraction of women are motivated to vote for her solely because she's a woman. However, I haven't seen polls that bluntly asked "Are you voting for Hillary because she's a woman?"

Originally posted by twhitehead
I think it highly unlikely that that would be a motivation for many.

My own opinion (I'm not an american so it doesn't really count) is as follows:
1. I wouldn't want Trump for obvious reasons, or any of the other republican nut cases.
2. That basically leaves Clinton or Sanders. So its not really about do I like Clinton vs anyone else, its just Clin ...[text shortened]... t this point. I would want Sanders' general ideas but a different figure head to implement them.

Hillary's strength with women was much the same in 2008, too.

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
yeh, cop shoots unarmed 12 year old, bank executives crash the economy and not only they don't go to jail but are given golden parachutes but Hillary's emails are what concerns you.

If we Wink and Nod about the criminal exploits of our leaders, do we have any realistic chances of cleaning up the rest of the injustice system?

Originally posted by Soothfast
Hillary's strength with women was much the same in 2008, too.

I think women are souring on Clinton. Most of the female support was carryover from Bill, which dropped off after Monica.