The Governator on climate change

The Governator on climate change

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Z

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http://samuel-warde.com/2015/12/arnold-schwarzenegger-stumps-climate-change-deniers-with-one-pro-life-question/

"I, personally, want a plan. I don’t want to be like the last horse and buggy salesman who was holding out as cars took over the roads. I don’t want to be the last investor in Blockbuster as Netflix emerged. That’s exactly what is going to happen to fossil fuels."

"A clean energy future is a wise investment, and anyone who tells you otherwise is either wrong, or lying. Either way, I wouldn’t take their investment advice."

Z

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the full ahnuld view is here:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/arnold-schwarzenegger/i-dont-give-a-if-we-agree-about-climate-change/10153855713574658

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Bottom line: even if you believe climate change is a hoax(those that do are stupid), pollution is not. the fact that we will run out of fossil fuels eventually is not, and we need them for more important things than burning them.

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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
Bottom line: even if you believe climate change is a hoax(those that do are stupid), pollution is not. the fact that we will run out of fossil fuels eventually is not, and we need them for more important things than burning them.
we this, we that, we must, we, we, we, weeeeee, weeeeeeeeee

Who is the 'we' you speak of z.

Always claiming to speak for the 'we'.

News for z: You don't.

Z

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Originally posted by Wajoma
we this, we that, we must, we, we, we, weeeeee, weeeeeeeeee

Who is the 'we' you speak of z.

Always claiming to speak for the 'we'.

News for z: You don't.
ignoring for a moment that again you are rambling outside the topic, in this case i can actually speak for "we"

"WE" are running out of fossil fuels and that's a fact
"WE" are getting sick and dying because of pollution and that's a fact.

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Originally posted by Wajoma

Who is the 'we' you speak of z.

Which "we" that Zahlanzi uses are you not part of?

Here is what he said:
the fact that we will run out of fossil fuels eventually is not,
and we need them for more important things than burning them.


Or will you be the man with inexhaustible supply of
fossil fuel and no need for petroleum products?

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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
http://samuel-warde.com/2015/12/arnold-schwarzenegger-stumps-climate-change-deniers-with-one-pro-life-question/

"I, personally, want a plan. I don’t want to be like the last horse and buggy salesman who was holding out as cars took over the roads. I don’t want to be the last investor in Blockbuster as Netflix emerged. That’s exactly what is going to happ ...[text shortened]... s you otherwise is either wrong, or lying. Either way, I wouldn’t take their investment advice."
While I am personally one of the stupid ones, I 100% agree with what you are saying here. Alternate energy sources are an absolute must. 100% for many, many, many reasons.

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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
ignoring for a moment that again you are rambling outside the topic, in this case i can actually speak for "we"

"WE" are running out of fossil fuels and that's a fact
"WE" are getting sick and dying because of pollution and that's a fact.
Climate change. The climate of the planet has always changed, and always will. Not much that humans can do about it, one way or the other.

It does make sense to look for alternatives to fossil fuels, but the truth is that we are using them more responsibly, and with less pollution than in the past.

Stop the panic speech and enjoy life a bit, maybe at a barbecue.

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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
http://samuel-warde.com/2015/12/arnold-schwarzenegger-stumps-climate-change-deniers-with-one-pro-life-question/

"I, personally, want a plan. I don’t want to be like the last horse and buggy salesman who was holding out as cars took over the roads. I don’t want to be the last investor in Blockbuster as Netflix emerged. That’s exactly what is going to happ ...[text shortened]... s you otherwise is either wrong, or lying. Either way, I wouldn’t take their investment advice."
Belief in Christ as savior is the best investment. 😏

HalleluYaH !!!
Praise the LORD !!!
Holy! Holy! Holy!

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Belief in Christ as savior is the best investment. 😏

HalleluYaH !!!
Praise the LORD !!!
Holy! Holy! Holy!
Repent!! Turn from your sins RJ, for the world is coming to an end thanks to global warming.

Won't you do your part in helping to support Climate change legislation in order to achieve our collective salvation?

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Originally posted by normbenign
Climate change. The climate of the planet has always changed, and always will. Not much that humans can do about it, one way or the other.

It does make sense to look for alternatives to fossil fuels, but the truth is that we are using them more responsibly, and with less pollution than in the past.

Stop the panic speech and enjoy life a bit, maybe at a barbecue.
"The climate of the planet has always changed, and always will. "
but it changed across thousands and millions of years. it wasn't influenced by humans

"Not much that humans can do about it, one way or the other."
we can influence it less.

"Stop the panic speech and enjoy life a bit"
funny you should mention that. most republicans who use that line are also the ones engaging in spreading panic over muslims, christmas under attack, capitalism under attack, american dream under attack, obamacare is evil, hillary clinton is evil, obama is muslim and kenyan and evil.
are you such a republican?

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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
"The climate of the planet has always changed, and always will. "
but it changed across thousands and millions of years. it wasn't influenced by humans

"Not much that humans can do about it, one way or the other."
we can influence it less.

"Stop the panic speech and enjoy life a bit"
funny you should mention that. most republicans who use that lin ...[text shortened]... evil, hillary clinton is evil, obama is muslim and kenyan and evil.
are you such a republican?
All we need is more fear mongering from Donald Trump to wake people up to the truth. I am just wondering what his next genius action will be to upset political correctness of the stupid. 😏

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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
"The climate of the planet has always changed, and always will. "
but it changed across thousands and millions of years. it wasn't influenced by humans

"Not much that humans can do about it, one way or the other."
we can influence it less.

"Stop the panic speech and enjoy life a bit"
funny you should mention that. most republicans who use that lin ...[text shortened]... evil, hillary clinton is evil, obama is muslim and kenyan and evil.
are you such a republican?
Norm is absolutely right. Climate change is not disputed, the primary cause of it is. Many people have bought into the big lie that climate scientists agree that man is the primary cause of global warming today. NO SUCH POLL EXISTS!

I expect someone will provide a web link from the consensus project or some other propaganda source. These bunk websites all have one thing in common, they never provide their source of information. Why? Simple.....IT DOES NOT EXIST!

All that the majority of climate scientists agree on is that man has an influence on global warming and that is all.

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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
"The climate of the planet has always changed, and always will. "
but it changed across thousands and millions of years. it wasn't influenced by humans

"Not much that humans can do about it, one way or the other."
we can influence it less.

"Stop the panic speech and enjoy life a bit"
funny you should mention that. most republicans who use that lin ...[text shortened]... evil, hillary clinton is evil, obama is muslim and kenyan and evil.
are you such a republican?
funny you should mention that. most republicans who use that line are also the ones engaging in spreading panic over muslims, christmas under attack, capitalism under attack, american dream under attack, obamacare is evil, hillary clinton is evil, obama is muslim and kenyan and evil.
are you such a republican?


I'm not panicking about anything. Climate change is something that man hasn't caused, and that he has little or no control over. The climate has always changed, and always will. How much man is contributing to these changes is debatable. Most of the global warming, cooling, climate change are about politics, and methods of extracting more taxes from people, instead of just adapting to temperature changes. Some of the other things you mention have tangible human causes, effects and possible controls. They are no reason to panic, but do have rational solutions, besides just raising taxes.

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Originally posted by normbenign
[b]funny you should mention that. most republicans who use that line are also the ones engaging in spreading panic over muslims, christmas under attack, capitalism under attack, american dream under attack, obamacare is evil, hillary clinton is evil, obama is muslim and kenyan and evil.
are you such a republican?


I'm not panicking about anything. ...[text shortened]... trols. They are no reason to panic, but do have rational solutions, besides just raising taxes.[/b]
Have you considered submitting these findings to a peer reviewed journal?