Modernization or union bust?

Modernization or union bust?

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Guppy poo

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02 Nov 09

Originally posted by Sartor Resartus
Nonsense. One has only to recall the complete failure of all the Communist-run States to see that you are simply a gullible 'fellow traveller'.
What did the "communist run states" have to do with communism or the people owning and controlling utilities?

See? That's your problem. You're misinterpretting State-capitalism for communism.
A common mistake amongst the indoctrinated and uneducated. Which are you?

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03 Nov 09

Originally posted by shavixmir
What did the "communist run states" have to do with communism or the people owning and controlling utilities?

See? That's your problem. You're misinterpretting State-capitalism for communism.
A common mistake amongst the indoctrinated and uneducated. Which are you?
Some people just don't understand the concept of Dialectic something or other.

GRANNY.

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03 Nov 09

Originally posted by shavixmir
Generally speaking, if it's from the people the people will benefit from it. If it's run by a private company, it's not run for the benefit of the people.

How you organize the management structure dictates efficiency.
Why do you suppose such governments as you imagine don't exist?

The people do not tend to benefit from collectives over time... rather they tend to stagnate.

Individual pursuits and incentives are not done away with through dismissive talk. One incentive does not replace the destruction of another.

Not what you want to hear though.

Guppy poo

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03 Nov 09

Originally posted by eljefejesus
Why do you suppose such governments as you imagine don't exist?

The people do not tend to benefit from collectives over time... rather they tend to stagnate.

Individual pursuits and incentives are not done away with through dismissive talk. One incentive does not replace the destruction of another.

Not what you want to hear though.
Why do you consider the rich abusing the poor to be the only valid method of civilization?
Do you not reckon that the friction between these two sides creates change?

And when do you think that change will stop?

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03 Nov 09

Originally posted by shavixmir
What did the "communist run states" have to do with communism or the people owning and controlling utilities?

See? That's your problem. You're misinterpretting State-capitalism for communism.
A common mistake amongst the indoctrinated and uneducated. Which are you?
Neither.
You just talk gobble-de-gook. Your posts here either consist of abusive attacks usually with lavatorial references, or a simpleton's belief in communism as a panacea for all economic ills despite the overwhelming evidence of failure whenever it has been put into practice.

Guppy poo

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03 Nov 09

Originally posted by Sartor Resartus
Neither.
You just talk gobble-de-gook. Your posts here either consist of abusive attacks usually with lavatorial references, or a simpleton's belief in communism as a panacea for all economic ills despite the overwhelming evidence of failure whenever it has been put into practice.
Oh really?

You just talk gobble-de-gook. Your posts here either consist of abusive attacks usually with lavatorial references, or a simpleton's belief in capitalism as a panacea for all economic ills despite the overwhelming evidence of failure whenever it has been put into practice.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
Oh really?

You just talk gobble-de-gook. Your posts here either consist of abusive attacks usually with lavatorial references, or a simpleton's belief in capitalism as a panacea for all economic ills despite the overwhelming evidence of failure whenever it has been put into practice.
You sound like a parrot.

Guppy poo

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03 Nov 09

Originally posted by Sartor Resartus
You sound like a parrot.
You read like Sadsod Retardus.

Your cheap retorts are like watching GW Bush jr. pointing Iraqistan out on a map.
You have no clue, nor by the sounds of it, will you ever.

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03 Nov 09

Originally posted by shavixmir
You read like Sadsod Retardus.

Your cheap retorts are like watching GW Bush jr. pointing Iraqistan out on a map.
You have no clue, nor by the sounds of it, will you ever.
Dry up you vulgar dropout.

Guppy poo

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04 Nov 09

Originally posted by Sartor Resartus
Dry up you vulgar dropout.
Not had enough yet?
Coming back for more?

What are you? A masochist or something?
Who'd a thunk it? A low-life capitalist pig is obviously used to bending over and taking it like a man.

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04 Nov 09

I'm not convinced privitization of electrical utility companies provides any serious benefit. Not just because of the Enron debacle, but there are significant scale advantages. They have been privatized here in the 90s and bills haven't gone down.

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04 Nov 09

Originally posted by shavixmir
Not had enough yet?
Coming back for more?

What are you? A masochist or something?
Who'd a thunk it? A low-life capitalist pig is obviously used to bending over and taking it like a man.
I gather that you are a compatriot of 'Gorbals Mick' the disgraced Labour appointed ex-Speaker of the House of Commons. He spouted a lot of incomprehensible nonsense too and he has been rewarded with a seat in the House of Lords, so a great future may yet be yours.

Guppy poo

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04 Nov 09

Originally posted by Sartor Resartus
I gather that you are a compatriot of 'Gorbals Mick' the disgraced Labour appointed ex-Speaker of the House of Commons. He spouted a lot of incomprehensible nonsense too and he has been rewarded with a seat in the House of Lords, so a great future may yet be yours.
Reading your posts is like eating unsalted bread.

And who the hell is Gorbals Mick???

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04 Nov 09

Originally posted by shavixmir
Reading your posts is like eating unsalted bread.

And who the hell is Gorbals Mick???
Can't you read?

Guppy poo

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04 Nov 09

Originally posted by Sartor Resartus
Can't you read?
I presume that's rhetoric?
If it was an attempt at wit... oh dear.