Liberals conservatives like, and vice versa

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Since this thread caught my eye:

On the right: Rudy Giuliani, Buckley (sometimes an insufferable sack, but his mannerism were just too good), some of the senior Kristol (his son is just too much of an idiot), nowadays Hitchens is surely on the right and only gets louder and idioter but he does pack some mean punches every once in a while, an indian guy whose name I can't remember and I'm too lazy to google it up... I'm sure that there are some more names, but I just can't remember them now.

Going a little bit astray I can say that lefties as Dawkins and A. C. Grayling really are a sorrow for my rose tinted, quasi-atheist eyes.

John Gray isn't really on the right but, even though he can be quite loose on historical details, he certainly is entertaining.

Ps: All of you that voted on guys that are on the cable left should really be ashamed of yourselves.

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Originally posted by sh76
You mean Tom Friedman?
Yeah, I know its a reach to call him a liberal

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Originally posted by sh76
Oh, can anyone post there? Honestly, I don't pay enough attention to DK to know what parts of the site operate in what manner. That just came up on a Google search...
What you posted was essentially a forum thread. On DK they call them "diaries" for some reason.

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20 Jul 11

Originally posted by adam warlock
Since this thread caught my eye:

On the right: Rudy Giuliani, Buckley (sometimes an insufferable sack, but his mannerism were just too good), some of the senior Kristol (his son is just too much of an idiot), nowadays Hitchens is surely on the right and only gets louder and idioter but he does pack some mean punches every once in a while, an ...[text shortened]... f you that voted on guys that are on the cable left should really be ashamed of yourselves.
an indian guy whose name I can't remember
Dinish D'Souza?

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Originally posted by generalissimo
[b]an indian guy whose name I can't remember
Dinish D'Souza?[/b]
Nope. That guy's just a pompous doofus.

I remember reading some stuff this guy wrote about Arundhati Roy and it caught my fancy even though I disagreed with him.

I could google it up, but I think I won't.

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Originally posted by adam warlock
Nope. That guy's just a pompous doofus.

I remember reading some stuff this guy wrote about Arundhati Roy and it caught my fancy even though I disagreed with him.

I could google it up, but I think I won't.
Adam!!!

Where ya been, buddy?

In Greece, looking to get on that new flotilla, perhaps? 😉

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Originally posted by sh76
Adam!!!

Where ya been, buddy?

In Greece, looking to get on that new flotilla, perhaps? 😉
I also missed you, but the thing is that I changed my laptop (thus lost my password and also lost that nifty script that blocked some pesky posters), got some actual work done and a life to boot.
Then a user reminded me of this and I came back. Getting my old password back was a lot easier than I thought and now every once in a while i take a look at the fora to see what's going on.

By the way have you checked my list of conservatives? 😛 😉

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Originally posted by adam warlock
I also missed you, but the thing is that I changed my laptop (thus lost my password and also lost that nifty script that blocked some pesky posters), got some actual work done and a life to boot.
Then a user reminded me of this and I came back. Getting my old password back was a lot easier than I thought and now every once in a while i take a look at the fora to see what's going on.

By the way have you checked my list of conservatives? 😛 😉
I did. Not a bad list... though I hardly think it's fair to put Hitchens and Dawkins on opposite sides of the spectrum...

Dawkins is one of those guys that is just so arrogant that I'd like him to lose a debate even when I agree with him. When he gets that smug little smile as he's blithely dismissing those who disagree with him I just want to smack him.

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Originally posted by badmoon
Yeah, I know its a reach to call him a liberal
Well, I'd call Tom Friedman a liberal, though he seemingly does more writing on foreign policy issues than on traditional left-right issues.

Also, I didn't realize he was that popular. Other than reading him on the op-ed page in the Times every once in a while, I hardly hear from him.

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Originally posted by sh76
I did. Not a bad list... though I hardly think it's fair to put Hitchens and Dawkins on opposite sides of the spectrum...
To tell you the truth I had to force myself to label Dawkins as a lefty, but since that is the standard denomination.

But apart from the rampant atheism of Hitchens, which one usually links to leftist politics, he really doesn't hold any leftist view nowadays (a bit of a stretch I know, but c'mon I know you get my drift).

Of all of those that a listed, Giuliani gets the more respect from me. Up until recently that is...

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Originally posted by adam warlock
To tell you the truth I had to force myself to label Dawkins as a lefty, but since that is the standard denomination.

But apart from the rampant atheism of Hitchens, which one usually links to leftist politics, he really doesn't hold any leftist view nowadays (a bit of a stretch I know, but c'mon I know you get my drift).

Of all of those that a listed, Giuliani gets the more respect from me. Up until recently that is...
Giuliani? You mean the Mayor of 9/11 who was - 9/11 - running for President of 9/11?

I'm kidding around of course. I like Giuliani too, but not everything about him. He was too dogmatic in pursuit of laudable goals. He helped reduce crime in New York by leaps and bounds but his silly crusades against the cabbies and street vendors and the like were spiteful and vindictive. Although a social moderate, on criminal justice issues, he was authoritative to a fault. I also think he was wrong to go after Milken the way he did when he was US Attorney.

But... he did a good job as mayor and, in the end, that's all that really counts.

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Originally posted by sh76
Giuliani? You mean the Mayor of 9/11 who was - 9/11 - running for President of 9/11?

I'm kidding around of course. I like Giuliani too, but not everything about him. He was too dogmatic in pursuit of laudable goals. He helped reduce crime in New York by leaps and bounds but his silly crusades against the cabbies and street vendors and the like were spiteful ...[text shortened]... Attorney.

But... he did a good job as mayor and, in the end, that's all that really counts.
And he also said some stuff recently that made me dislike him a little bit but I don't wanna go there...

And of course my all time favorite conservative, and I'm really ashamed that I forgot about him in the first place: Brzezinski.