25 Jun 15
Originally posted by no1marauderAlas, the body's contents do not have personal sovereignty or equal protection until the government giveth to it.
No rights were given to anyone by any provision of the Constitution but you were born with the right to personal sovereignity over your own body and its contents.
26 Jun 15
Originally posted by MoneyManMikeUnfortunately, SCOTUS made no determination as to the personhood of the unborn. They just shrugged their shoulders and said it was beyond their realm to know, so what they hey, just have abortions anyhow.
Babies can be deprived of life without due process of law so long as they are aborted before they are viable (whatever that means).
Whodey should be BANNED.
26 Jun 15
Originally posted by no1marauderSo according to you, the first 10 amendments did not give anyone rights other than the states for self determination. Then comes along the 14th amendment to federally give us rights that the states did not decide to give us? Is this not a violation of the 10th amendment?
No rights were given to anyone by any provision of the Constitution but you were born with the right to personal sovereignity over your own body and its contents.
Why not let the states determine this?
So what about the right to kill yourself? Last I checked it was against the law.
What about the right to take illegal drugs?
Also, it seems to me that the 14th amendment could be used to point to rights within certain states and then turn around and tell other states they must give these rights as well. For example, if Maine said that state citizens should have free internet service then shouldn't everyone in the US have the right to free internet service under Article 14?
26 Jun 15
Originally posted by whodeyThe Supreme Court of the United States of America just ruled that same-sex marriage must be allowed in all 50 states.
I predict they will soon violate it again with a ruling on gay marriage.
There is seemingly nothing that the federal government can't dictate to the states.
26 Jun 15
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Originally posted by RJHindsWhere does the Constitution give the federal government the right to declare a person married? I'm unaware of any federal marriage license.
The Supreme Court of the United States of America just ruled that same-sex marriage must be allowed in all 50 states.
26 Jun 15
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Originally posted by EladarThe United States Declaration of Independence says
Where does the Constitution give the federal government the right to declare a person married? I'm unaware of any federal marriage license.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Supreme Court has ruled that same sex marriage is a fundamental right that should be included in the amendments to the Constitution of the United States of America.
They mainly used the 14th amendment and equal protection clause. No person could be denied "equal protection of the laws."
27 Jun 15
Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal took no time in condemning the Supreme Court Friday for their decision to legalize gay marriage.
“The Supreme Court is completely out of control, making laws on their own, and has become a public opinion poll instead of a judicial body,” he said in a statement. “If we want to save some money lets just get rid of the court.”
The Supreme Court ruled in a 5-4 decision Friday that all 50 states must recognize same-sex marriage, but Jindal accused the court of playing politics.
“Today, Chief Justice Roberts admitted that the gay marriage ruling had nothing to do with the Constitution. Marriage between a man and a woman was established by God, and no earthly court can alter that,” he said. “Hillary Clinton and The Left will now mount an all-out assault on Religious Freedom guaranteed in the First Amendment.”
Earlier in the day Friday, Clinton praised the decision on Twitter as an “historic victory for marriage equality,” and changed her campaign logo to include the rainbow colors.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/26/jindal-wants-to-get-rid-of-supreme-court-after-gay-marriage-ruling/#ixzz3eDWiDPSW
27 Jun 15
Originally posted by RJHindsI don't think either side gives a damn what the other thinks.
Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal took no time in condemning the Supreme Court Friday for their decision to legalize gay marriage.
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27 Jun 15
Originally posted by RJHindsThe 14th amendment strikes again, making the 10th null and void
The United States Declaration of Independence saysWe hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
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27 Jun 15
Originally posted by EladarIt is also difficult to conceive of anything that has to be licensed as a right, natural or otherwise. Licensing infers a privilege, not a right.
Where does the Constitution give the federal government the right to declare a person married? I'm unaware of any federal marriage license.
27 Jun 15
Originally posted by normbenignLook back at the conversation between whodey and marauder earlier in this thread. Marauder euphemistically referred to fetuses as body content. But I suppose (unviable) fetuses are tantamount to poop in liberal la la land. Go figure.
How true and fortunate, for if the bodies contents were sovereign and protected we could poop all over the street if we felt like it.
27 Jun 15
Originally posted by whodeyNo.
So according to you, the first 10 amendments did not give anyone rights other than the states for self determination. Then comes along the 14th amendment to federally give us rights that the states did not decide to give us? Is this not a violation of the 10th amendment?
Why not let the states determine this?
So what about the right to kill yourself ...[text shortened]... vice then shouldn't everyone in the US have the right to free internet service under Article 14?
The Constitution doesn't give you any rights at all according to the Framers; you had your Natural Rights before there was a Constitution and you would have had them even if the Constitution was never written.
An Amendment made after another would supersede it if the Amendments were in direct conflict - the 14th Amendment cannot possibly "violate" the 10th Amendment.
In general, States have powers, not rights. Those powers cannot violate the Natural Rights of the people and State statutes that do so are void.