09 Feb '09 02:24>
Elvis
Originally posted by badmoonThese two (four?) criteria are completely unrelated.
Outstanding importance or significance.
AND
talent and skill.
Originally posted by darvlayWashed ups, .. do you know that the rolling stones just made more money on their last tour than any other tour by anyone ever. In the Billions
These two (four?) criteria are completely unrelated.
I think talent and skill are completely unimportant and irrelevant when it comes to being significant and being an influence on your audience. Just ask Jim Osterberg, John Cummings or Lou Reed among so many others - all of which are arguably quite short on raw talent.
So you have to pick one or th ...[text shortened]... McCartney and Keith Richards?
Anyways, I could rant for hours............................
Originally posted by darvlayThat sure could be said for Kurt Cobain, in a Rolling Stones issue a few years ago, they rated the best guitarists, and they put his name higher than Andre Segovia. Of course they are both dead but I thought that was totally over the top, Segovia founded a whole SCHOOL of guitar style and so did Cobain but not anything like the quality of Segovia. Segovia had more talent in his little finger than Cobain had in his whole persona.
These two (four?) criteria are completely unrelated.
I think talent and skill are completely unimportant and irrelevant when it comes to being significant and being an influence on your audience. Just ask Jim Osterberg, John Cummings or Lou Reed among so many others - all of which are arguably quite short on raw talent.
So you have to pick one or th ...[text shortened]... McCartney and Keith Richards?
Anyways, I could rant for hours............................
Originally posted by gregsflatCould you offer some commentary comparing these three musicians performing the same piece? Kind of shows my difficulty with this thread.
This topic is an interesting list of candidates. I can see Sonny Rollins because he has a strong tradition of playing with the greats of jazz, he does continue to perform at a high level, no pun intended. He also has acclaim world wide. I'm just not sure a Jazz or legit classical player can sustain enough popularity to overtake the influence rock idols h ...[text shortened]... hose that are able to make a living at their art and continue to strive for excellence.