22 Sep 08
Originally posted by darvlayWrong Question.
What is it about Pearl Jam and Nirvana's sound that makes it distinctly grunge instead of just being punk or rock and roll?
Grunge wasn't a "sound" It was an era. A very SHORT era, but an era nonetheless.
It is mislabelled now and people think that grunge means some kind of way to describe how grunge bands sounded. The closest generality you can give to grunge bands is that alot of them had fuzzy sounding guitars or that alot of the copycat bands (Bush/Matchbox 20/Silverchair etc) had singers that sounded like Vedder or Cobain.
The Grunge era lasted from approx 1990-1994 before it eventually died in 1996 for good with the last Soundgarden album.
22 Sep 08
Originally posted by darvlaySame as my post above. Because they were part of an ERA.
Also, why are Pearl Jam and Nirvana even clumped together when they don't sound a thing alike?
It's the same reason why Jethro Tull, Velvet Underground, and the doors get labelled as Hippie Music from the 60's even though none of them have the same sound.
22 Sep 08
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Originally posted by darvlayThat's not something that can be defined in just a few sentences...It's way too esoteric...
Yes but, soundwise, what set these artists apart from other "underground" rock artists of the same time?
But, it's like that American politician famously said about pornography, "I don't know how to define it but I know it when I see it"
22 Sep 08
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Originally posted by PalynkaLook, if you insist on some kind of definition, the best you'll get is one with one fuzzy Drop "D" tuned guitars, a slow/fast/slow cadence to the songs, and a general expression of discontent with one's lot in life.
In what way do you think SP was grunge?
Edit - Or, at least, part of the grunge era, as you put it above.
But there are SO many exceptions that would disprove this defnition. If you try to define it, you lose it. Can't be done in words....at least not by this hack.
EDIT: If you think The Rolling Stones are Rock N Roll, and you also think Led Zeppelin is Rock N' Roll, then how do you account for the fact that they sound nothing alike?? The problem is the label you've applied doesn't allow for mulitple interpretations if you insist on calling Rock N Roll a "sound". It's not a sound. It's a generality. And you can't define generalities without allowing for variation.
22 Sep 08
Originally posted by uzlessI know it's not going to be a rigid one, I'm not trying to be pedantic.
Look, if you insist on some kind of definition, the best you'll get is one with one fuzzy Drop "D" tuned guitars, a slow/fast/slow cadence to the songs, and a general expression of discontent with one's lot in life.
But there are SO many exceptions that would disprove this defnition. If you try to define it, you lose it. Can't be done in words....at least not by this hack.
I know it's hard explain in words but SP, to me, don't feel grunge at all.
22 Sep 08
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Originally posted by PalynkaSmashing Pumpkins definitely became more Pop sounding in their later albums. More along the lines of some kind of Radiohead/Offspring combination.
I know it's not going to be a rigid one, I'm not trying to be pedantic.
I know it's hard explain in words but SP, to me, don't feel grunge at all.
29 Sep 08
Originally posted by PinkFloydsays you.
"Grunge" is no more an "era" than MCHammer's genie pants or Madonna's red Kaballah ribbon. They were all flash-in-the-pan fads. History shall little note, nor long remember, the term Grunge---and rightly so.
People used to say the same thing about the disco era and the new wave era.....yet we still remember them..in fact, new wave made a come back with the whole RETRO thing a while back.
Check out a band called "The Black Angels"... a song called "the First Vietnemese war
30 Sep 08
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Originally posted by PinkFloydPunk will be forgotten in 20 years? You have a serious disconnect with reality and culture, my friend. But I can't say I'm surprised given the source - weren't you the one that hasn't listened to any new music in twenty years?
Not for very much longer. New wave, punk, disco, and grunge will all be as memorable as the Spice Girls in another 20 years.
01 Oct 08
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Originally posted by darvlayNot for lack of trying though. I tried listening to hip hop and a few other new "genres", but had to stop because my ears wouldn't stop bleeding. 😀 Oh---the PAIN....
Punk will be forgotten in 20 years? You have a serious disconnect with reality and culture, my friend. But I can't say I'm surprised given the source - weren't you the one that hasn't listened to any new music in twenty years?
And in fairness, it's more like 25 years. When did Money for Nothing come out?