@rajk999 said
Islam is a genocidal religion
Islam teaches its followers to convert or kill.
Muslims are the maniacs.

All smart people are islamophobic.
The fools are not

you're a rabid dog and i keep breaking my promise to just ignore you


almost 2 billion muslims don't bomb anything, don't spew hate. They just practice in peace, just like the jews who don't kill everyone like in the old testament or christians who don't burn witches or start crusades.

you are a garbage person and i can't fukin believe you haven't been banned yet. The moderators are sleeping. I am more likely to be banned because i said fukin.

Go fuk yourself you worthless human being.

I am sorry for all americans who are trying to do the right thing but the whole world hates America for subjecting us to either of these choices.
That either of them would be in charge of nukes for the next four years is chilling.

That being said, one of them is a moronic criminal who has claimed over and over he will do everything he can to dismantle american democracy. The other is a rather decent old man (except for the monstrous Israel policy) with whom you can work with.

The choice should be clear for everyone thinking of staying home: who would you rather protest against in the next 4 years? Whose policies would you rather challenge in court? Who would you rather have the veto?

@mott-the-hoople said
they are taking an American citizens job…yes I am pissed about that

most jobs the immigrants get, especially the ones without documentation, are jobs no american would want.

rather than get pissed at an immigrant desperate enough to work in grueling conditions maybe you should direct your anger towards the billionaire who offers those meager conditions. maybe the politician that allows them to.

@mott-the-hoople said
I support myself, unlike you I don’t need the govt or illegals to make my way in the world.

i wish you a merry "we moved your job to vietnam, get fuked" and a happy "enjoy the unemployment benefits from the govt"

@earl-of-trumps said
If you call Israel's killing 10,000 Palestinian children "defending themselves", then fine.

you being reasonable confuses me. like a dream that's not quite a nightmare just very weird. Something is out of place

@rajk999 said
Thats a load of nonsense. Here is the truth about the Hamas Charter.

Since its founding in the late 1980s, Hamas has been promoting rhetoric and policies aimed at destroying the Jewish state of Israel and killing Jews and Israelis around the world. This is evident in their founding charter, which cites the infamous Protocols of the Elders of Zion forgery as “proof” of a ...[text shortened]... ion and the liberation of Jerusalem?”

https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/hamas-its-own-words

interesting interesting


tell me, should we kill the friends and neighbors and families of anyone who ever made a threat online?
"These rednecks from bumfukville threatened to kill everyone in New York and will never stop, let's bomb Alabama and every neighboring state to be sure they aren't a threat"

@kellyjay said
So why are you calling me names I am not calling for the death of anyone in any degree? You don’t think claiming solidarity with a genocidal group puts you in the same class having murdering others as a goal?

War is ugly the death of humanity from innocence to combatants happens, indiscriminately launching missiles and rockets in neighborhoods being done to Israel I do ...[text shortened]... atrocities they see by those they dislike, but justify most things done to those that they dislike.

you view palestinians as subhumans and israel as justified in doing anything because they are "defending" themselves

your vote makes US politicians continue to supply Israel with weapons to kill civilians and not hold it accountable in any way in how they use them

"You don’t think claiming solidarity with a genocidal group puts you in the same class having murdering others as a goal? "
glossing over the fact that hamas is not commiting genocide because it can't and never will, when have i ever claimed solidarity with hamas?

where you perhaps referring to palestinian civilians? are you wondering why a group of people who lose their loved ones, have no clean water, no food and no homes are for the group that claims to protect them but definitely not the ones who did all those things i mentioned? Are you perhaps claiming palestinians should say thank you to Israel for all those bombs? Are you perhaps saying they should take up arms against hamas, and between the bombs that killed their loved ones, should throw their lives and attack hamas?

Are you still wondering why i call you a dumbass?


"War is ugly the death of humanity from innocence to combatants happens, indiscriminately launching missiles and rockets in neighborhoods being done to Israel I don’t see any outrage for that."
this is not a war, It entirely one sided, One side holds all the power while the other side is a barely significant terrorist organization that builds rockets in a basement, rockets that barely ever reach their target. This would be similar to the US bombing the entire Alabama state because the KKK took some hostages. And refusing to stop. Refusing to go after the actual kkk leaders, Killing the very same hostages kkk took. Or bombing a mall if a mass shooter takes some hostages in the food court.

Dumbass

@mott-the-hoople said
ummm…is hamas still holding hostages?

yes, they are a terrorist organization
is israel still bombing civilians?

@rajk999 said
17 legal experts at ICJ hearing did not say Isreal is committing genocide. So maybe you should stop using the social media definition.

Oooh, 17 entire legal experts? I am totally convinced that these unnamed and unquoted legal experts said exactly what your lying dumbass claims they said.

@kellyjay said
You believe anyone calling for genocide against anyone is not a genocidal maniac?

yes, dumbass. the internet is filled with asholes calling for the death of any kind of group, persons, having dreams about commiting any manner of crime.

to be a genocidal maniac you have to commit genocide. And you can be a genocidal maniac while shouting over and over that you are defending yourself, that you don't mean to kill civilians, that you simply commit oopsies each and every damn day.

What would it take for you to look at Israel's actions as genocidal? You need to see Netanyahu on TV, doing a Hitler rally and a Hitler speech, saying he will kill all palestinians? That's the requirement for calling a genocide for what it is? The mass murderer admitting to his mass murder?

At this point, the murderous Israel government is the embodiment of SouthPark's "it's coming straight for us, shoot it" hunting meme

@kellyjay said
Bad things are happening, and people are dying. Genocide is a term used for when everyone is being killed for who they are, typically that is not thrown about when deaths are more in line with horrific collateral damage. Moreover, if both sets of combatants wanted to avoid those types of deaths, none of them would be hiding where when conflict finds them it is unavoidable.

One side is using genocide as a stated goal and it isn't Israel.

"Genocide is a term used for when everyone is being killed for who they are"
palestinians are killed for who they are

"typically that is not thrown about when deaths are more in line with horrific collateral damage"
when you systematically target civilian targets, bomb refugee camps and hospitals and school, there is no longer collateral damage. It is intentional damage.

"Moreover, if both sets of combatants wanted to avoid those types of deaths, none of them would be hiding where when conflict finds them it is unavoidable."
Collective punishment is a war crime. Israel is punishing the palestinian population for the actions of a terrorist organization. Israel is committing an act of terrorism and a war crime

"One side is using genocide as a stated goal and it isn't Israel."
One side is a terrorist organization that doesn't have a fraction of the other's body count. A terrorist organization that has mentioned it wants to destroy Israel but doesn't have the means to actually do it and never will.
Another side is systematically trying to erase palestinians from existence, either pushing them out of their homes and putting them in jail or bombing them after being handed the 7th october massacre as an excuse. While having billions in aid from the US. It has the means to kill palestinians and it uses them. Methodically and intentionally. It does so without remorse and without humanity because it can, because Biden or any other president US might have is too much of a chickensht to risk losing some evanghelical votes, one of which you are. Yes, i am considering you indirectly responsible for palestinian deaths.

The last sides are the israeli and palestinian peoples. The former is being put in danger by handing Hamas the greatest recruitment drive in their history. The latter is being bombed into oblivion and starved when not. Losing their homes almost seems like a minor nuisance at this point but is also a part of the genocide.

@kellyjay said
Are these genocidal maniacs or peaceful protesters?

they're idiots and israel is still committing genocide.

assuming this actually happened and you're not doing a thought experiment

@sh76 said
Of course it is. It may not always be a good defense or a smart defense, but it's definitely a defense (if the intent is defensive, of course).

Walking around with a holster or a gun-like bulge in a dangerous area is quite a common technique, and is based on the same principle.

"Of course it is. It may not always be a good defense or a smart defense, but it's definitely a defense"
words have no meaning to you, huh.


"Walking around with a holster or a gun-like bulge in a dangerous area is quite a common technique, and is based on the same principle."
Yet that isn't what I or the OP was saying, is it? A gun in a holster is somewhat different than a gun waved at someone. The same way it makes a difference if a US military base is located in Texas or in Turkey or Japan.

But I am sure you wouldn't mind Russia opening bases in Cuba, right? They are defensive after all

@shavixmir said
Are you suggesting a deterent isn’t a defensive technique.

Hogwash to that, sir.

you can call everything defensive then.

all the wars the US starts, all the coups it funds, all the weapons it sells to terrorists.