Certain sports (cycling and track especially) are almost completely ruined by performance enhancing drugs. In fact almost everyone you've ever heard of from Ben Johnson on tested positive. Even given that Marion Jones is a Barrry Bonds style joke. (1) look at her -- women just don't look like that and if there is one lesson in the steriod world, it is trust your eyes (2) Her coach is involved (3) her husband is involved. It's sad.
Originally posted by leepoundIt'll be interesting to see what happens when/if the media hits the NFL for steroid use. It's obviously wide spread but since there are no olympic games for football there seems to be little impetus for the Media (ie ABC Fox ESPN) to make a big deal out of it. They have so much money invested in keeping the NFL popular that I don't see it happening.
Certain sports (cycling and track especially) are almost completely ruined by performance enhancing drugs. In fact almost everyone you've ever heard of from Ben Johnson on tested positive. Even given that Marion Jones is a Barrry Bonds style joke. (1) look at her -- women just don't look like that and if there is one lesson in the steriod world, it is trust your eyes (2) Her coach is involved (3) her husband is involved. It's sad.
Originally posted by uzlessEXCELLANT point!
It'll be interesting to see what happens when/if the media hits the NFL for steroid use. It's obviously wide spread but since there are no olympic games for football there seems to be little impetus for the Media (ie ABC Fox ESPN) to make a big deal out of it. They have so much money invested in keeping the NFL popular that I don't see it happening.
Originally posted by leepoundThe womens world record books are a complete sham. I hope Ms Jones - who lets face it was married to CJ Hunter then hada baby with Tim Montgomery goes to jail for her perpetual lying on this matter.
Certain sports (cycling and track especially) are almost completely ruined by performance enhancing drugs. In fact almost everyone you've ever heard of from Ben Johnson on tested positive. Even given that Marion Jones is a Barrry Bonds style joke. (1) look at her -- women just don't look like that and if there is one lesson in the steriod world, it is trust your eyes (2) Her coach is involved (3) her husband is involved. It's sad.
However, when athletes take drugs it is systematic, there are many members of the support team who are equally guilty. In fact these people are possibly more guilty as they don't have to live with the negative side effects that often affect athletes in later life.
I hope her health is fine, and if she is truly sorry she will collaborate fully with officials to try and expose more of this corruption.
What I consider a bigger problem is the fact that this drug was invisible until Marion's coach mailed it to the authorities. How many other athletes are using such substances because the scientists are one step ahead of the testers?
In football there are things like blood doping allegedly used in other European leagues but frowned upon by the Premier League.
Originally posted by z00tLets note go with this THE BRITISH ARE ALL CLEAN BS.. remember Rio a few years ago when he 'missed' a test?
What I consider a bigger problem is the fact that this drug was invisible until Marion's coach mailed it to the authorities. How many other athletes are using such substances because the scientists are one step ahead of the testers?
In football there are things like blood doping allegedly used in other European leagues but frowned upon by the Premier League.
Also Johnstone of Scotland and rangers was banned for drug use in the 70s.
David jenkings the british 400m runner come out after his retirement to say he used drugs during his career IN THE 70s
I did not say the leagues here are all clean but how many times have you read of players coming from the leagues abroad and their red blood cells are abnormally high? There was that Juve drugs scandal as well as the later match-fixing.
You also have the situation where people who miss a test like Rio are banned for 8 months (despite passing a later test) and people who actually take drugs banned for 4 months?
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/2007/09/the_drugs_ban_x.html
Originally posted by z00tFair point.
I did not say the leagues here are all clean but how many times have you read of players coming from the leagues abroad and their red blood cells are abnormally high? There was that Juve drugs scandal as well as the later match-fixing.
You also have the situation where people who miss a test like Rio are banned for 8 months (despite passing a later test) and ...[text shortened]... y take drugs banned for 4 months?
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/2007/09/the_drugs_ban_x.html