Originally posted by shortcircuitTHe Bungs lost even though the Texans had two of their star players out you dolt!!
LMAO.
The Bengals lost by one point with 2 seconds to go in the game to the Division winning
Houston Texans. Truly abysmal!!
Who did the Raiders play? Oh yes, Green Bay, the only undefeated team in the NFL.
That had to be a shock they lost as well.
Geesh!!
Originally posted by whodeyWho are the two star players? Surely not Arian Foster as Ben Tate actually is just as good if not better than Foster and even their QB is good... the QB situation in Houston is starting to look like when Brady had to replace Bledsoe in New England.
THe Bungs lost even though the Texans had two of their star players out you dolt!!
Geesh!!
Originally posted by tomtom232Would you consider ALL PRO players as star players?
Who are the two star players? Surely not Arian Foster as Ben Tate actually is just as good if not better than Foster and even their QB is good... the QB situation in Houston is starting to look like when Brady had to replace Bledsoe in New England.
Andre Johnson, the BEST receiver in football hands down.
Matt Schaub, one of the top rated QB's in the NFL .
Mario Williams, ALL PRO DE/LB
None of those 3 played. Do they qualify?
Originally posted by shortcircuitThey qualify as long as they have no capable replacements.
Would you consider ALL PRO players as star players?
Andre Johnson, the BEST receiver in football hands down.
Matt Schaub, one of the top rated QB's in the NFL .
Mario Williams, ALL PRO DE/LB
None of those 3 played. Do they qualify?
Capable = able to post similar stats
With this in mind Matt Schaub isn't needed as his replacement is good... and your assertion that Andre Johnson is the BEST receiver in football is rubbish... out of the five games he has played this season he has only one game with over one hundred recieving yards and they LOST that game. Maybe he was the best but nobody has ever been the best handsdown at the reciever position... however, he does qualify as well as Mario Williams but that doesn't mean that their team is no good... any team that wants a shot at winning it all needs depth and it is quite apparent that the Texans have exactly that.
Originally posted by tomtom232You are so full of crap.
They qualify as long as they have no capable replacements.
Capable = able to post similar stats
With this in mind Matt Schaub isn't needed as his replacement is good... and your assertion that Andre Johnson is the BEST receiver in football is rubbish... out of the five games he has played this season he has only one game with over one hundred recievi ...[text shortened]... shot at winning it all needs depth and it is quite apparent that the Texans have exactly that.
There is NO ONE in their right mind who would compare our rookie QB with Schaub.
Andre Johnson is the BEST receiver in pro football today. He is rated # 1.
He earns the top pay. He is extremely tough to cover, has great hands, and is strong
as hell and tough to bring down once he has the ball. AND, no one on our roster is his equal.
You are chasing your tail here.
Originally posted by shortcircuitI don't know where you get your numbers but there are many analysts out there who do not have Johnson as their number one and Yates has an 82.3 QB rating so far this year (85.9 in his two starts) and a 104.1 QB rating when his team is behind which means he is doing more than managing the game and he just orchestrated a comeback to clinch their division against the bungals... I think Yates is definitely comparable to Schaub... You just have a hardon for certain players on your home team ignoring the efforts of everyone else to make this team what it is.
You are so full of crap.
There is NO ONE in their right mind who would compare our rookie QB with Schaub.
Andre Johnson is the BEST receiver in pro football today. He is rated # 1.
He earns the top pay. He is extremely tough to cover, has great hands, and is strong
as hell and tough to bring down once he has the ball. AND, no one on our roster is his equal.
You are chasing your tail here.
Originally posted by tomtom232I have no idea where you are looking.
I don't know where you get your numbers but there are many analysts out there who do not have Johnson as their number one and Yates has an 82.3 QB rating so far this year (85.9 in his two starts) and a 104.1 QB rating when his team is behind which means he is doing more than managing the game and he just orchestrated a comeback to clinch their division aga ...[text shortened]... n players on your home team ignoring the efforts of everyone else to make this team what it is.
If you are using this season's numbers, he hasn't played much.
He has been the best in the league for the last 3 years.
QB rating for a kid who has played an aggregate 10 quarters of football in his entire career doesn't mean squat.
And, you are out of your mind if you think Yates compares favorably to Schaub.
Take a look at the glaring stat of what the Texans did with their first possession of the game
each week of the season. Schaub scored nearly every time.
Linehart and Yates have not scored at all on first possession.
Yates had a 300 yard game yesterday....first one.
Schaub has more 400 yard games this season than Yates has 300 yard games.
No comparison. The kid has grit and is cool under pressure, but they have simplified the
scheme for him, as they should have, which limits us a bit.
Originally posted by shortcircuitI am not saying yates is better only that Schaub isn't missed as much as other injured players.
I have no idea where you are looking.
If you are using this season's numbers, he hasn't played much.
He has been the best in the league for the last 3 years.
QB rating for a kid who has played an aggregate 10 quarters of football in his entire career doesn't mean squat.
And, you are out of your mind if you think Yates compares favorably to Schaub ...[text shortened]... re, but they have simplified the
scheme for him, as they should have, which limits us a bit.
Originally posted by tomtom232No, believe me, Schaub is missed.
I am not saying yates is better only that Schaub isn't missed as much as other injured players.
They are not the same offensive juggernaut they were with him at the helm.
Yates is learning, but he is under the gun.
Other teams haven't yet exposed his weakness, but they will.
He took 3 sacks yesterday he shouldn't have.
He tossed a picked.
He sailed 3 passes to wide open receivers.
We got lucky yesterday that we were close enough to recover.
He nutted it up in crunch time, no doubt, but we were not playing Pittsburgh or Baltimore.
Carson Palmer was "Bungalized".
Let me splain.
Stage 1: Trepidation
Unless a player has been living in a cave somewhere, he has heard about the historical history of the franchise. This understandably leads to concern in a number of areas, such as long-term career development and prospects for the post-season. While wary, our player in Stage 1 Bungalization nevertheless "hopes for the best" and takes a "wait and see attitude". You will note that all Bengals players, in definition, are at least at this initial stage.
Stage 2: Evaluation
Our player looks around and starts to notice substandard practices. Compared to what his buddies on other teams say, the coaching staff is small. So is the personal development. The trainers seem to work with less sophistication methods and equipment. Player services in general are lacking. And some of his teammates seem to easily get away with bad behavior. At Stage 2 Bungalization, our player has not made any severe judgements, but his sense of discomfort is growing. Ever so slightly, his performance and development slip as his focus is compromised.
State 3: Endurement
Our player starts to see the negative outcomes (all involving losing). Many are a surprise because "on paper" the team is suppose to be much better. He notices the pattern repeating itself, and his sense of discomfort grows. At Stage 3 Bungalization, however, our player is holding steadfast to hope. "Next year", he believes, "things can only get better". But while he is in waiting mode, it is becoming steadily more difficult to play up to his ability.
Stage 4: Recognition
Now it comes to pass that our player sees the light. The team simply is dysfunctional to the core. Management is in a state of denial and shows no inclination of ever "getting it". He wants out, but he knows the team is peculiar in how it handles such situations. At Stage 4 Bungalization, he begins to feel trapped, and his game performance becomes noticeably inconsistent.
Stage 5: Tanking it
Finally our player has given up. He may not know it consciously, but deep down he knows his efforts are futile. It is impossible to look forward to anything, and even offseason mini camps are anticipated with dread. Stage 5 Bungalization leads to a huge and consistant drop in performance, but out player might be one of the favored few who is not held accountable.
At this terminal stage, the player has two options. He can wait until the team cuts him or retire. Carson chose the later. I suspect Dalton and company are around Stage 1 or 2. In fact, their early success I think was due to their fresh outlook when they first came aboard.