04 Sep 11
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Originally posted by SakeBut he hasn't done anything right since Porto, though, and it has been a few years now... One thing that didn't work with him for us was that he had no ability to adapt to different ways of thinking. Porto has a relatively well defined club culture and managers must work within the bounds set by the upper management. Our business model depends on that, the revolving door of players is part of what the manager needs to be able to work with. He didn't seem to comprehend that or showed no willingness to be more flexible. I wonder if his lack of success in the clubs after that were also because of similar problems. He seemed to have some success in the Netherlands but never outside...
I love the underdogs getting a bigger team as well, but Greece........ no, after one or two lucky wins, it should have been over.
I don't know what happened with Adriaanse when he was the Porto coach and left overnight. Maybe he has a communication problem abroad? But believe me, he is a brilliant one. He brought a very very mediocre team to the Champions Le ...[text shortened]... ched with AZ Alkmaar the semi finals of The UEFA cup against Sporting with attractive football.
04 Sep 11
He had a major hand in the Austrian championship of Red Bull Salzburg 2009.
You may be right on him. Adriaanse is the kind of guy who wants to shape the whole club to his vision. Not only how the 1st team should play, but to achieve that the management be structured that way, the youth should be modelled to his vision towards the 1st team. He has an opinion what kind of players he needs to be succesfull. He wants the staff to follow him and buy the players he asks for. He prefers the ones who understand him, rather than the starplayers. He hates the stardom attitude.
Good for Porto they stick to their own. You can't let your work turned up side down for every coach you contract.
But this is exactly what you get when you bring in people like van Gaal or Adriaanse. You get them for the results and the attractive way of playing. That makes your brand grow, you get attention for the way the game is played. People, players want to be a part of that. When a club contracts them and then moan about the things they want, or how they act in front of the camera (van Gaal especially) you have a deaf and blind staff. They could and should have known.
04 Sep 11
Originally posted by SakeI guess, they should have known, but perhaps since it was his first time outside the Netherlands it wasn't that obvious... We played attacking football, but somewhat unbalanced (you'd like it! 😉 ). Good enough for our league (Sporting is Sporting, and Benfica prioritized the CL and failed miserably in the league), but we can't play 3-4-3 in the Champions League, it's suicide. Ending last of our CL group (with Rangers and Artmedia!) was a big blow, financially and sportingly. One of our worst European performances in latest years.
He had a major hand in the Austrian championship of Red Bull Salzburg 2009.
You may be right on him. Adriaanse is the kind of guy who wants to shape the whole club to his vision. Not only how the 1st team should play, but to achieve that the management be structured that way, the youth should be modelled to his vision towards the 1st team. He has an opinion wh ...[text shortened]... camera (van Gaal especially) you have a deaf and blind staff. They could and should have known.
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05 Sep 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou may love that, but 90% of your compatriots care for nothing else than that Celtic wins/Rangers win/neither of those bluidy Glaswegian bullies wins. No matter how.
what you talking about? i love watching Scottish football, its full of incident, like watching two 1200 rated players playing chess, ok the standard is sub, but its entertaining from a certain perspective.
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08 Sep 11
Originally posted by PalynkaApparently one of the FFP rules starting next year is to maximize non first contracts.
With the financial fair play rules starting to bite on 2012 and 2013, it seems like now is the worst possible timing to dump Arsenal's strategy. I haven't read the FFP rules in detail, but I imagine it's still relatively soft for most clubs, but hopefully it will have some bite for the clubs who have become some billionaire's new toy.
Chairman Rummenigge of the ECA opposes this upcoming rule with the argument he wasn't consulted in time about this rule.
Maybe he's wearing a double hat as being the vice president of Bayern Munich, who hardly have any first contracter except for maybe Schweinsteiger.
Unsure what the maximum will be, but already problems may occur with the buying clubs.
Unclear if this proposal is a legal one according to European laws. A company can not be punished for not having enough first contracters. There's no such thing.
Might be an empty balloon after all.
The ECA came up with another plan to cut down the price money for the clubs having a certain deficit.
And 'the deficits' will not be aloud to buy players.
I wonder if they will include the well known.
08 Sep 11
Originally posted by jimslyp69Hi Jimmsy, i think Shallow blue is correct, I mean its like calling the English national football team after a region, like Norfolk or something to be fair.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_national_football_team
Tsk tsk. Go complain to Wiki for spreading untruths then.
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09 Sep 11
Originally posted by jimslyp69Bah! I might as well complain to Cameron (or Rutte!) for the same reason. I'll get similar results.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_national_football_team
Tsk tsk. Go complain to Wiki for spreading untruths then.
Holland is to the Netherlands as England is to the UK. It's just a province. In your country, provinces have their own sports teams; you are, AFAIAA, the only country in the world of which this is accepted.
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09 Sep 11
Originally posted by Shallow BlueWrong. Holland is a province with the Netherlands but England is a country within a kingdom of united counties.
Bah! I might as well complain to Cameron (or Rutte!) for the same reason. I'll get similar results.
Holland is to the Netherlands as England is to the UK. It's just a province. In your country, provinces have their own sports teams; you are, AFAIAA, the only country in the world of which this is accepted.
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09 Sep 11
Originally posted by Shallow BlueI understand your argument and have educated myself since our initial discussion on the geography of the country, but the Nederlands football team is still referred to as 'Holland' in English. Not sure if it is referred to its equivalent in any other language.
Bah! I might as well complain to Cameron (or Rutte!) for the same reason. I'll get similar results.
Holland is to the Netherlands as England is to the UK. It's just a province. In your country, provinces have their own sports teams; you are, AFAIAA, the only country in the world of which this is accepted.
Richard
So there you go.
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10 Sep 11
Originally posted by jimslyp69Sure, and Liz II is still referred to as "Koningin van Engeland" in the Netherlands, and many other countries. It's still wrong. Ask any Scotsman. But for the love of your wedding tackle, ask him politely, and check that he doesn't have his claidheamh mòr on him first. At least all we Dutchmen will do is up the price.
I understand your argument and have educated myself since our initial discussion on the geography of the country, but the Nederlands football team is still referred to as 'Holland' in English. Not sure if it is referred to its equivalent in any other language.
Richard