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    24 Feb '07 14:29
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    Do you think there are any problems with Intelligent Design?
    I think some presentations of ID probably have some problems.

    But some of the rebuttals seem to involve us in more problems. I think there are problems with the whole pseudo Buddhist approach that there is only an "Appearance of Design" [to paraphrase] as a kind of illusion.

    That seems to be the counter argument of some who reject intelligent design, like Dawkins, I believe.

    I think to say that there is only an appearance of design is similiar to the Buddhist philosophy that there is only an illusionary appearance of the world.
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    24 Feb '07 14:534 edits
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    I thought A&E were the only people, having C&A, C kills A but C gets married somehow. What's wrong with this picture?
    ... oh those literals ...... 😛 🙄


    The book of Genesis is not a biology book. It tells us something about God, mankind and their relationship.

    The book of Genesis is therefore a theology book and should be read and interpreted accordingly.
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    24 Feb '07 15:552 edits
    Originally posted by ivanhoe
    ... oh those literals ...... 😛 🙄


    The book of Genesis is not a biology book. It tells us something about God, mankind and their relationship.

    The book of Genesis is therefore a theology book and should be read and interpreted accordingly.
    I agree with much here. Genesis is not written to be an exhaustive discription of how God created everything.

    But there is a flow of history that is obviously taken seriously by the rest of the Bible. So while it is theological it is also history.

    There is a flow of history from Eden through Genesis and the subsequent books.
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    24 Feb '07 15:591 edit
    ... oh those literals ......


    Cain moved to Nod to the east of Eden. Do you think that he could move "east" to a purely allegorical place?

    I don't.
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    24 Feb '07 18:20
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    I thought A&E were the only people, having C&A, C kills A but C gets married somehow. What's wrong with this picture?
    Who told you when Cain and Abel were born they were the only kids, not to mention even being the first two?
    Kelly
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    24 Feb '07 18:23
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Given the limited genetic stock available in the biblical account of human origins, why do we not all display the signs of chronic inbreeding?
    If you take scripture as written you will also see that the lives of people was much longer too. I'd imagine the issues that creap into inbreeding now wouldn't have been as bad back then, mainly because of the all the issues within human DNA were not as bad then as they are now.
    Kelly
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    24 Feb '07 21:24
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    If you take scripture as written you will also see that the lives of people was much longer too. I'd imagine the issues that creap into inbreeding now wouldn't have been as bad back then, mainly because of the all the issues within human DNA were not as bad then as they are now.
    Kelly
    How is longevity going to help? It doesn't matter how many children the parents sire, if its 1 or 1,000 they all have the same genetic makeup and therefore would be subject to the same incest problems, even if they were born 800 years apart, they still have the same parents.
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    25 Feb '07 04:21
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    How is longevity going to help? It doesn't matter how many children the parents sire, if its 1 or 1,000 they all have the same genetic makeup and therefore would be subject to the same incest problems, even if they were born 800 years apart, they still have the same parents.
    True, but if they genetic makeup is closer to perfect as one who was designed to live forever would be, there would be less chances of problems springing up early on.
    Kelly
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    25 Feb '07 07:37
    Originally posted by jaywill
    Next you could figure out why so many second and third rate evolutionists are resorting to ad hominems these days.
    Probably because they only want to spend their time talking to people capable of rational thought, not with people like you.
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    25 Feb '07 08:52
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    True, but if they genetic makeup is closer to perfect as one who was designed to live forever would be, there would be less chances of problems springing up early on.
    Kelly
    And your evidence for this is where exactly?
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    25 Feb '07 13:491 edit
    Originally posted by scottishinnz
    Probably because they only want to spend their time talking to people capable of rational thought, not with people like you.
    Actually, I think you're a fanatic.
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