1. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    03 Jun '09 16:07
    Originally posted by whiteknight26
    What are some things, which you see as ‘bad’ in all organized religions?
    in the end any belief system can be a barrier between you and god,(however helpful it may have been when you first started)
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    03 Jun '09 16:08
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    Fundamentalism...
    The definition I have of Fundamentalism is simply a strict adherence to a set of beliefs and/or principles. Was there another definition you are using, because I’m not quite following you. Perhaps you can be more specific. For example, I have a strict set of beliefs and I can guarantee you there’s nothing ‘bad’ about my beliefs. Please be more specific about fundamentalism.
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    03 Jun '09 16:17
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    in the end any belief system can be a barrier between you and god,(however helpful it may have been when you first started)
    How can any beliefs be a barrier between you and God? My apologies but I just am not following this reasoning at all.
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    03 Jun '09 16:182 edits
    Originally posted by whiteknight26
    How can any beliefs be a barrier between you and God? My apologies but I just am not following this reasoning at all.
    how can they NOT be a barrier?(given that all human beliefs,however well thought out, are imperfect )
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    03 Jun '09 16:201 edit
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    how can they NOT be a barrier?(given that all human beliefs,however well thought ,out are imperfect )
    Good beliefs. A simple example – I believe in not murdering innocent people. How can that belief be a barrier between God and I?
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    03 Jun '09 16:22
    Originally posted by whiteknight26
    Good beliefs. A simple example – I believe in not murdering innocent people. How can that belief be a barrier between God and I?
    in the sense that you think it is 'good' and the ultimate 'god' realizes no distinctions such as good or bad
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    03 Jun '09 16:25
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    in the sense that you think it is 'good' and the ultimate 'god' realizes no distinctions such as good or bad
    Then your definition of God and the God I believe in are much different.
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    03 Jun '09 16:29
    Originally posted by whiteknight26
    Then your definition of God and the God I believe in are much different.
    i haven't try to define God,rather un-define 'him'.
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    03 Jun '09 16:36
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    i haven't try to define God,rather un-define 'him'.
    That’s fine with me if that’s what you want to try and do. You’re reasoning still makes no sense to me. 😛
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    04 Jun '09 04:23
    Originally posted by whiteknight26
    The definition I have of Fundamentalism is simply a strict adherence to a set of beliefs and/or principles. Was there another definition you are using, because I’m not quite following you. Perhaps you can be more specific. For example, I have a strict set of beliefs and I can guarantee you there’s nothing ‘bad’ about my beliefs. Please be more specific about fundamentalism.
    Q: From where do they recruit terrorists and suicide bombers? A: From fundamentalists!
    Q: Who are the leaders of suicide cults, and child molestation cults? A: Fundamentalists!
    I say: When fundamentalism come, rationality goes.

    Bottom line: What good does these fundamentalists do? I cannot find anything.
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    06 Jun '09 11:35
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    Q: From where do they recruit terrorists and suicide bombers? A: From fundamentalists!
    Q: Who are the leaders of suicide cults, and child molestation cults? A: Fundamentalists!
    I say: When fundamentalism come, rationality goes.

    Bottom line: What good does these fundamentalists do? I cannot find anything.
    A fundamentalist can have good beliefs or they can have bad beliefs. Simply because someone is a fundamentalist by definition does not mean they are going to do something such as join a terrorist group, be part of a suicide group, or become a child molester.

    I consider my beliefs strict when compared to what a majority of the world believes. A couple of examples would be, I don’t believe in watching rated ‘r’ movies or pornography. I don’t believe in playing any video games rated ‘mature’, I don’t believe in drinking alcohol, I don’t believe in smoking, I don’t believe in having sex before marriage, etc. By definition, I would be considered a fundamentalist due to the strict beliefs I hold. There is nothing, and I repeat; nothing wrong with the beliefs I hold. My beliefs are not going to bring me closer to becoming a terrorist or join any of the cults you pointed out in your post.

    So what good can come from my ‘fundamentalist’ beliefs? Quite a bit actually. I also believe in helping others. A couple of examples would be years ago in Florida we had a couple Hurricanes hit hard down in Punta Gorda. Many of us ‘fundamentalists’ went down and helped the residents. The same thing happened in New Orleans. What happened then? Once again, many so-called ‘fundamentalists’ drove up from Florida to help. Many of these were kind-hearted people wanting to lend a helping hand. Many of which were part of an organized Church (organized religion) and by definition fundamentalists.
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    06 Jun '09 11:49
    Originally posted by whiteknight26
    A fundamentalist can have good beliefs or they can have bad beliefs. Simply because someone is a fundamentalist by definition does not mean they are going to do something such as join a terrorist group, be part of a suicide group, or become a child molester.

    I consider my beliefs strict when compared to what a majority of the world believes. A coup ...[text shortened]... f which were part of an organized Church (organized religion) and by definition fundamentalists.
    Still, terrorists are recruited from fundamentalist groups; cults are often based on fundamentalism...

    But, of course, fundamentalists can do good things too, but not in the name of fundamentalism, not as I see it.

    I see fundamentalism in a wider perspective. There are religious fundamentalists, yes, of various kinds (christians, muslem, jewish, etc) but also political, feminist, veganism, anti this and that...
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