Originally posted by telerion I find the OP to be a particularly interesting question given that God supposedly designed and created jealousy. Now a human feels jealousy as a spontaneous, involuntary response to stimuli, however for God jealousy cannot be spontaneous (by omniscience he knows eons ahead of time that such a feeling will occur) or involuntary (by sovereignty). This means ...[text shortened]... idence of the supernatural. The supernatural is evidence of the super-spiritual. Praise Muffy!
Praise Muffy! Wonderful post. It shows intellect, logic, and actual thought. Gets my rec, and I almost never give those out. I don't suppose you'd want to join my clan, The Mystery Men? No? Okay, had to ask. Keep up the good posts, and don't let all the mudslinging get you down.
Originally posted by thesonofsaul Praise Muffy! Wonderful post. It shows intellect, logic, and actual thought. Gets my rec, and I almost never give those out. I don't suppose you'd want to join my clan, The Mystery Men? No? Okay, had to ask. Keep up the good posts, and don't let all the mudslinging get you down.
Originally posted by Coletti Spoken on the great authority of our Lord Emperor no1, who has authority to judge all things, including God.
Sure I can judge and compare mythical constructs like OT monster God and Zeus. OT monster God is a lot more bloodthirsty; Zeus is hornier according to the relevant myths. You judge other people's gods all the time by saying they don't exist; aren't you being a total hypocrite (a common fundie trait)?
Originally posted by Coletti [quote]Exo 34:12-16 ESV Take care, lest you make a covenant
with the inhabitants of the land to which you go, lest it
become a snare in your midst. (13) You shall tear down
their altars and break their pillars and cut down their
...[text shortened]... curity. Clearly this is not the same meaning as used in the OT.
A new Humpty Dumpty-Coletti definition! Jealously is not a modern notion if it's in your KJV which wasn't exactly written in the Space Age. Jealous means "intolerant of rivalry or unfaithfulness"; I'd say that definition perfectly fits the OT passages. In essense, you are doing again what you invariably do: constructing a preconceived notion of your God and then arguing backwards from that notion that the words in the Bible can't possibly mean what they say! At least you're consistent in your never ending struggle to redefine the world into Colettiesque.
Originally posted by no1marauder A new Humpty Dumpty-Coletti definition! Jealously is not a modern notion if it's in your KJV which wasn't exactly written in the Space Age. Jealous means "intolerant of rivalry or unfaithfulness"; I'd say that definition perfectly fits the OT passages. In essense, you are doing again what you invariably do: constructing a preconceived notion ...[text shortened]... least you're consistent in your never ending struggle to redefine the world into Colettiesque.
I was wondering where my shadow got to.
"intolerant of rivalry or unfaithfulness";
That does not contradict what I said. You just ague to be augmentative.
Originally posted by Coletti I was wondering where my shadow got to.
"intolerant of rivalry or unfaithfulness";
That does not contradict what I said. You just ague to be augmentative.
If it doesn't contradict what you said, God is jealous and jealously is a weird concept for an omnipotent God, don't ya think? And if there's only one God, how come OT monster God says "you shall have no other GODS before" me? Fess up; the primitive Israelites, like other primitive peoples, created a god just for them, their Sugar Daddy - they accepted there were other gods but those weren't the bomb like OT monster God. It was a common ancient belief system that if you displeased a god, he'd punish you and your ancestors for this transgression. If you're going to believe in a primitive superstition, can't you come up with one a little more original than OT monster God?
BTW, check the thread and see who posted first and you'll see who's "shadowing" who. Tootles.
Originally posted by thesonofsaul Please don't call me pious, if you don't mind.
Don't get defensive, son. There are plenty of threads that show a remarkable respect for one and other's belief systems. Trust me, this is about the mildest board I've ever seen in terms of "spiritual" debates. You stumbled into a thread where folks were blowing off some silly steam and proceeded to castigate everyone for childish behaviour.
If the glass slipper is your size, you might as well wear it, Cinderella.
Originally posted by Coletti [quote]Exo 34:12-16 ESV Take care, lest you make a covenant
with the inhabitants of the land to which you go, lest it
become a snare in your midst. (13) You shall tear down
their altars and break their pillars and cut down their
Asherim (14) (for you shall worship no other god,
for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God), ...[text shortened]... n "low self-esteem" and insecurity. Clearly this is not the same meaning as used in the OT.
Would have been nice of God to look the word up in a dictionary before he made a Commandment out of it.
What could make a God jealous ?
20 Jun '05 16:18
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