08 May '13 21:39>
reply to R J Hinds lie that Jehovahs Witness collaborated with national Socialist party in Germany.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieRobbie, I watched 98 % of the video.
reply to R J Hinds lie that Jehovahs Witness collaborated with national Socialist party in Germany.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lykM5ePGPpc
Originally posted by sonshipI doubt if they understand the meaning of "Jesus is Lord."
Robbie, I watched 98 % of the video.
Of course it should be commonly known history that Jehovah's Witnesses were placed in concentration camps by Hitler with Jews, Gypsies, and some other groups.
This is known by many.
My only question to you would be - Is confessing [b]"Jesus is Lord" as repulsive to Jehovah's Witnesses as, say, Heil Hitler saying or pledge to American flag saying ?[/b]
Originally posted by RJHindsmany of the person interviewed in the video are not witnesses, your assertion that we collaborated with the Nazis is a lie, you instruct people with lies, what kind of instructor is that?
Simply more Watchtower propaganda - Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christians.
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Originally posted by sonshipthank you for watching sonship with an open mind, we worship only the father, Christ is the King designate of Gods Kingdom, he plays a very special role, but we do not worship the Christ, we worship the father, exclusively. It depends on what you mean therefore by the statement, 'in confessing Christ as Lord'. If you could elaborate upon it, i may be able to elucidate our stance.
Robbie, I watched 98 % of the video.
Of course it should be commonly known history that Jehovah's Witnesses were placed in concentration camps by Hitler with Jews, Gypsies, and some other groups.
This is known by many.
My only question to you would be - Is confessing [b]"Jesus is Lord" as repulsive to Jehovah's Witnesses as, say, Heil Hitler saying or pledge to American flag saying ?[/b]
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI pointed out to you that the Watchtower organization only
many of the person interviewed in the video are not witnesses, your assertion that we collaborated with the Nazis is a lie, you instruct people with lies, what kind of instructor is that?
Originally posted by johnnylongwoodyyour assertions are false, for as has been demonstrated to you, numerous times, the whole point of the declaration of intent was because we had ALREADY been placed under restrictions regarding our preaching activity, not because of the silly and rather ludicrous assertion that it was some kind of u turn, for which you have provided not a shred of evidence other than your own opinion.
I pointed out to you that the Watchtower organization only
condemned Hitlers government when they found that they
could not work with him.
There is no doubt that members of the Jehovah's Witnesses organization
suffered very badly along with others in Hitler's Germany.
But what you fail to acknowledge is the declaration document
sent to Hi s only after that happened that the Watchtower organization
condemned Hitler's government.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou don't want to know do you?
your assertions are false, for as has been demonstrated to you, numerous times, the whole point of the declaration of intent was because we had ALREADY been placed under restrictions regarding our preaching activity, not because of the silly and rather ludicrous assertion that it was some kind of u turn, for which you have provided not a shred of evi ...[text shortened]... the proof that we agreed with all of Hitlers policies, you made it, so either put up or shut up.
Originally posted by johnnylongwoodyI dont want a link, i want you to tell the forum all of the policies on the Nazi government that we agreed with, you have made the assertion, so either put up or stop telling lies. Lets start you off,
You don't want to know do you?
Here is one such source but there are many.
Anyone can look on the internet and see the engagement
that Rutherford attempted to have with Hitler's government.
No doubt you will rubbish the below link.
But there are many others, independent and free of any hatred
for your organization.
Anyone can google the links. Below is one such link.
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/hitler-nazi.php
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat about this link???
I dont want a link, i want you to tell the forum all of the policies on the Nazi government that we agreed with, you have made the assertion, so either put up or stop telling lies. Lets start you off,
did we agree with and support forced euthanasia for persons with a physical deformity or persons with mental illness? It was a policy of the Nazi ...[text shortened]... s a policy if the Nazi government.
Lets see you substantiate your assertions. You made them.
Originally posted by johnnylongwoodyI am not interested in your links, you have made serious accusations, either substantiate them or withdraw them, you typed them, you should be able to substantiate them.
What about this link???
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/T5REAN4LA7UHQS9L5
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat has not generally been known either by most Jehovah's Witnesses or many independent scholars, however, is that while ordinary German Witnesses did generally maintain their integrity and commitment to their principles, their leaders--the Watch Tower's second president, Judge Joseph F. Rutherford, and the man who succeeded him in office in 1942, Nathan H. Knorr, plus high German Watch Tower officials-did not.
many of the person interviewed in the video are not witnesses, your assertion that we collaborated with the Nazis is a lie, you instruct people with lies, what kind of instructor is that?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieRutherford's letter should be enough for you?
I am not interested in your links, you have made serious accusations, either substantiate them or withdraw them, you typed them, you should be able to substantiate them.
I provided two policies of the Nazi government, you stated that we supported all of their policies, well, please provide evidence that we supported, euthanasia and the execution ...[text shortened]... of the Nazi regime, why is that Johnny?
Shall i tell you Johhny, because you are full of it.
Originally posted by RJHindsMore Bull than a Herd of Texan longhorns,
What has not generally been known either by most Jehovah's Witnesses or many independent scholars, however, is that while ordinary German Witnesses did generally maintain their integrity and commitment to their principles, their leaders--the Watch Tower's second president, Judge Joseph F. Rutherford, and the man who succeeded him in office in 1942, Nathan H. ...[text shortened]... atch Tower officials-did not.
http://www.bible.ca/jw-penton-3rdreich.htm
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