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Originally posted by lucifershammerI'd fear for his soul.
Question for you - suppose he was once a born-again Christian who later abandoned faith, even though he was in all other respects a good man. What then?
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundRead the EDIT I posted. I clarify there that rejecting God need not always be a mortal sin.
You see, now you've got me going back to my keyboard.
So, if a mans only sin is not to believe in god, your God would have him in Eternal Damnation?
But if Ian Huntley truely repented, he would go to heaven. . . I think i prefer Halitose's God to yours, yours kinda sucks (please dont ask me to define sucks).
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Originally posted by huckleberryhoundSaying that a person is putting his soul at risk is neither playing God nor passing judgment - it's a statement of familial concern. Not to warn a person that he is doing that is an abdication of the responsibility God places on us.
The greatest sin is to judge others before God has had the chance, thats playing God.
(sorry if i posted this elswhere)
Originally posted by lucifershammeri dont honestly believe that someone who thinks such a thing is not being judgemental, but thats neither here nor there.
Saying that a person is putting his soul at risk is neither playing God nor passing judgment - it's a statement of familial concern. Not to warn a person that he is doing that is an abdication of the responsibility God places on us.
And, no - the greatest sin is not judging others. It's wilfully and knowingly rejecting God's love and grace.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundYou cannot wilfully and knowingly reject God and expect to be in heaven at the same time because that's what heaven is - intimate everlasting communion with God.
I would reject a God that demands recognition.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundIf you had a son, and you warned him that the company he keeps is likely to get him in trouble, are you being judgmental?
i dont honestly believe that someone who thinks such a thing is not being judgemental, but thats neither here nor there.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundMy point is that according to the Bible there are no minor sins. If you sin you become a sinner. It is much akin to being put on trial for murder and gettin up to defend yourself and saying what a good person you have been ect. The judge will look at you and say thats nice, but thats not why your here.
No. Lets play the ball a bit, you'll be askin me to define "man" next.
Its a theoretical question meant to provoke debate, not a lets ask Huck 20 questions thing.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundEverybody will have an opinion, but the only one that I would rely on is the one the Bible gives:
Does a good man go to heaven if he doesnt believe in God ?
sorry thiests, ah aint pickin on you's 🙂
Originally posted by lucifershammerWhat if she turned up at your doorstep begging to be let in, saying that she would suffer some unspeakably terrible fate if you said no?
If I divorce my wife because I don't want to have anything to do with her, I have no right to expect a place in her house. What's more, why would I even want to be in her house if I was the one looking for divorce in the first place?
Originally posted by whodeyIt's clearly not like being on trial for murder (unless you have murdered someone). It's more like facing the death penalty for having failed to pay a couple of parking tickets.
My point is that according to the Bible there are no minor sins. If you sin you become a sinner. It is much akin to being put on trial for murder and gettin up to defend yourself and saying what a good person you have been ect. The judge will look at you and say thats nice, but thats not why your here.