Light.....

A couple of the more scriptural foolish posters here will in no way get this. That is a given fact..... This is for the others here that actually think.
The bible uses the words "light" and "darkness" to explain the state of humans spiritual teachings, practices, type of worship and also their involvement in the world and their support to mans governments and his rules.
The bible describes that the majority of the world is in spiritual darkness.
(1 John 5:19, "We know that we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." (Not JW's words, Jehovah's words)
The bible says that some would be in a lit position but that the light would continually get brighter as time goes by and that not many others would ever see it.

Proverbs 4:18,
18 "But the path of the righteous is like the bright morning light
That grows brighter and brighter until full daylight."

( Not JW's words, Jehovah's words)
The point here is that most religions still follow and practice very old pagan beliefs like the Trinity for example, and no matter the proof shown that it is not a bible teaching, they never change their belief in such things. That is but one example of how most of the worlds religions are spiritually in darkness and have pretty much not changed. As long as they stay that way Jehovah will never help them see the light or truths of such teachings if they don't remove themselves from them.
Some here that are obviously in a dark spiritual condition, complain that the JW's change what we believe all the time. It is not comprehensible to them that it is simply Jehovah directing our course as time passes to a brighter light of understanding.
( Not JW's words, it is Jehovah's words )
So these few of many scriptures explains that as we get closer to the end of imperfect mans rule of this world that is stuck in the dark spiritually, but that some are in the light of understanding what Jehovah has let us see earlier and what he lets us see now and that would include any corrections he now lets us understand.
When a light gets brighter, you gradually see things clearer. Thanks to Jehovah.....

Had Charles Russell, founder of JWs, seen the light when he stated that the divinity of Jesus was retained and should be worshipped?

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Your grasp of reality is almost non existent but this is our answer. Take it or leave it.......

"The modern-day organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses began at the end of the 19th century. At that time, a small group of Bible students who lived near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in the United States, began a systematic analysis of the Bible. They compared the doctrines taught by the churches with what the Bible really teaches. They began publishing what they learned in books, newspapers, and the journal that is now called The Watchtower—Announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom.

Among that group of sincere Bible students was a man named Charles Taze Russell. While Russell took the lead in the Bible education work at that time and was the first editor of The Watchtower, he was not the founder of a new religion. The goal of Russell and the other Bible Students, as the group was then known, was to promote the teachings of Jesus Christ and to follow the practices of the first-century Christian congregation. Since Jesus is the Founder of Christianity, we view him as the founder of our organization.

Colossians 1:18-20:

18 and he ( Jesus) is the head of the body, the congregation. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that he might become the one who is first in all things; 19 because God was pleased to have all fullness to dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all other things by making peace through the blood he shed on the torture stake, whether the things on the earth or the things in the heavens.

@galveston75 said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Your grasp of reality is almost non existent but this is our answer. Take it or leave it.......

"The modern-day organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses began at the end of the 19th century. At that time, a small group of Bible students who lived near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in the United States, began a systematic analysis of the Bible. They compare ...[text shortened]... he blood he shed on the torture stake, whether the things on the earth or the things in the heavens.

So you ARE distancing yourself from the founder of your church, Charles Russell, and now claiming he was merely the 'editor of The Watchtower.' Is that really your position?

1. Worship doesn't mean worship.
2. The founder of your church wasn't the founder of your church.

As merely the editor of the watchtower, and not in fact the founder of your religion, are you now far enough away from Charles Russell to say he was wrong for claiming 'the divinity of Jesus was retained and should be worshipped? '

@galveston75 said

The goal of Russell and the other Bible Students, as the group was then known, was to promote the teachings of Jesus Christ and to follow the practices of the first-century Christian congregation. Since Jesus is the Founder of Christianity, we view him as the founder of our organization.

But Russell didn't merely promote the teachings of Jesus Christ. He believed, and stated, that Jesus retained divinity.

Was he wrong?

@galveston75 said
Among that group of sincere Bible students was a man named Charles Taze Russell. While Russell took the lead in the Bible education work at that time and was the first editor of The Watchtower, he was not the founder of a new religion.

Actually:

Jehovah's Witnesses started in 1870 when Charles Taze Russell led Bible studies in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The Jehovah's Witnesses movement came out of the Bible Student movement, also founded by Russell. When he started to dispute some traditional Christian views, the Jehovah's Witnesses were born.

Wiki

@ghost-of-a-duke said
But Russell didn't merely promote the teachings of Jesus Christ. He believed, and stated, that Jesus retained divinity.

Was he wrong?

Where did Russell ever say to worship Jesus ((( exactly ))) as we are to worship his Father Jehovah? Did he ever say they were both on the same level and we are to worship then on the same level?

@galveston75 said
A couple of the more scriptural foolish posters here will in no way get this. That is a given fact..... This is for the others here that actually think.

So if a person here doesn’t agree with your cultish beliefs they are “foolish”, but if someone does agree with you they are “thinkers”.

Got it.

@galveston75 said
The point here is that most religions still follow and practice very old pagan beliefs like the Trinity for example, and no matter the proof shown that it is not a bible teaching, they never change their belief in such things.

I don’t agree with nor believe in the “trinity” doctrine.

Does that make me “foolish” or a “thinker”?

@galveston75 said
A couple of the more scriptural foolish posters here will in no way get this. That is a given fact..... This is for the others here that actually think.
The bible uses the words "light" and "darkness" to explain the state of humans spiritual teachings, practices, type of worship and also their involvement in the world and their support to mans governments and his rules. ...[text shortened]... understand.
When a light gets brighter, you gradually see things clearer. Thanks to Jehovah.....

Do I have to be a member of your religious organisation as a prerequisite to obtaining life after death?

@galveston75 said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Your grasp of reality is almost non existent but this is our answer. Take it or leave it.......

"The modern-day organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses began at the end of the 19th century. At that time, a small group of Bible students who lived near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in the United States, began a systematic analysis of the Bible. They compare ...[text shortened]... he blood he shed on the torture stake, whether the things on the earth or the things in the heavens.

Has the Watchtower organisation ever gotten any of their prophetic claims wrong?

@galveston75 said
Where did Russell ever say to worship Jesus ((( exactly ))) as we are to worship his Father Jehovah? Did he ever say they were both on the same level and we are to worship then on the same level?

Here you go: (Are you ever going to explain what he meant by Jesus retaining his divinity? )

"It seems clear that His Divinity was retained in humanity because He repeatedly spoke of Himself as having come down from heaven, and because He, though passing through trial and sorrow as a man, was yet possessed of the authority and exercised the prerogatives of a God. He was the object of unreproved worship even when a babe, by the wise men who came to see the new-born King. Matt. 2:2-11. Even the angels delighted to do Him honor. "When He bringeth the first-begotten into the world, He saith, "And let all the angels of God worship Him." Heb. 1:6. He never reproved any one for acts of worship offered to Himself, but when Cornelius offered such service to Peter--the leading apostle-- "he took him up, saying, stand up; I myself also am a man." .... Had Christ not been more than a man the same reason would have prevented from receiving worship...."

Charles Russell - Zion's Watch Tower 1880 Oct pp.2-3

@divegeester said
Has the Watchtower organisation ever gotten any of their prophetic claims wrong?

Better still, have they ever got any right?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Better still, have they ever got any right?

https://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-Delayed-Story-Jehovahs-Witnesses/dp/0802079733

Apocalypse Delayed.

The title itself is worth the price of entry 😂

@divegeester said
https://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-Delayed-Story-Jehovahs-Witnesses/dp/0802079733

Apocalypse Delayed.

The title itself is worth the price of entry 😂

Apocalypse delayed. - No doubt there were leaves on the line or the wrong kind of snow.