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Originally posted by josephwTry it.
I bet you could google the numbers.
Originally posted by blakbuzzrdOk, I did try it and this is what I came up with. This is a taste of Christian persection in today's world.
Try it.
Originally posted by whodeyThere are also more christians alive today than all the previous generations combined.
Ok, I did try it and this is what I came up with. This is a taste of Christian persection in today's world.
More Christians died for their faith in the 20th century than at any other time in hisotry, says Christian Solidarity International. Global reports indicate that over 150,000 Christians were martyred last year.
http://www.worthynews.com/christia ...[text shortened]... er Christian brothers and sisters around the world. God bless them one and all.
Originally posted by whodeyQuite a lot of Christians died during WW1 and WW2 but I guess they weren't dying for their faith.
More Christians died for their faith in the 20th century than at any other time in hisotry, says Christian Solidarity International. Global reports indicate that over 150,000 Christians were martyred last year.
Originally posted by twhiteheadThat's my point. I'd be interested to see how an org like Christian Solidarity International determines exactly why Christians are being killed.
Are they really being persecuted because they are Christian and are refusing to convert to Islam? I don't know much about the Sudan conflict but I doubt if that is really the main issue.
Originally posted by whodeyCan anyone back up that figure?
The death toll is estimated around 2 million since hostilities insued.
Originally posted by shavixmirYou sir are insane!!!!
Praise be!
Hella yeah! There's international black day, international woman's day, international gay day, international secretary day, international mother's, father's, children's and old age-pensioners day...
But there's a definate lack of international white, heterosexual, single, childless man's day.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, and I ...[text shortened]... ttle Xians hiding behind plackards at the front door.
Go forth and punch them!
Originally posted by whodeyWell, that's certainly true if you're a follower of Allan. (pig dung be upon him.)
Whoever it was, could they moderate him out of all the other threads as well?
Just kidding Shav, you know we love ya!
Edit: Just for future reference, one does not need a specific day to persecute Christians, rather, its 365 days a year! Thought that might cheer you up a bit on fathers day............assuming that is, or coarse, you are a father.
Originally posted by twhiteheadWhen I refer to Christians dying for their faith I am specifically referring to Christians suffering for practicing their faith, hence, dying in WW2 does not qualify. How is one practicing their faith dying in a war? He who lives by the sword will die by the sword. It is a matter of simple physics. Any force can expect and equal and oppossity force in return. Violence produces more violence. Therefore, what force is being exerted via Christians practicing their faith in a nonviolent way? I say the violence is on a spiritual level rather than a material level. Therefore we see an oppossite and equal response to the gospel of Christ via murdering, raping, stealing, etc. even though it is carried out in a seemingly nonviolent way.
Quite a lot of Christians died during WW1 and WW2 but I guess they weren't dying for their faith.
The 20th century had more Christians than at any other time in history.
As a percentage of total Christians the 20th Century probably saw the least number of Christians dying for their faith.
The 20th century probably also saw the most Muslims and the ...[text shortened]... lam? I don't know much about the Sudan conflict but I doubt if that is really the main issue.
Originally posted by twhiteheadIt seems to me that one will simply have to take someones word for it. Therefore, pick and choose. Are you going to pick a number produced by the government of Sudan? I think this a bit niave. After all, what would they really be admitting if the number is 2 million? Would it not be genocide? I mean, where are all the dead Muslims if the number of dead Christians totaled 2 million if it were a two sided affair?
Can anyone back up that figure?
A recent news story said that the rebels were claiming 450,000 deaths and the government figure is around 10,000.
2 million seems like serious gross exaggeration making me think that some of the other claims are probably inaccurate or exaggerated too.
According to Wikkipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janjaweed
...[text shortened]... urce and land allocation.
Where are the Christians dying in all this? Or is wikkipedia wrong?