08 Dec '06 16:40>
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemYou're the one making subjective and dogmatic assertions here. Essentially your counter-argument boils down to "No one's explained it to me yet so I can understand it, therefore it's wrong". Where's the evidence and logic in that?
Oh! How silly of me. Here I thought one was supposed to believe things that are supported by evidence or logic. If you're more comfortable with dogmatic assertions, please don't let me get in the way.
A simple analogy might help you. Suppose you had a two-dimensional world where living beings existed but who could only move in two dimensions (it's easy to think of them as ants on a tray, for instance). You're an onlooker, a three-dimensional being. Do you exist outside of their two-dimensional world? Of course. Does that mean you cannot interact with them in their two-dimensional world? Of course not. You can squash some of them, or move them along their way, or block their path, or whatever. Of course, everything you do will be manifested as two-dimensional events in their view, but that doesn't make you a two-dimensional being.
God "outside time" works in pretty much the same way.