18 Aug '15 13:00>1 edit
Originally posted by chaney3This is not an issue on which I will "do battle" with anyone, nor did I intend to set myself as your "opponent". Perhaps I should not have posted, but you are making public claims here that no one who has much experience in the program would make. There are many personal views in AA, and you have just implied that a whole lot of longtime sober AA members are either (quaint) liars or deluded about the program that has kept them sober. AA is more than reading the BB and the wording of the steps--and deciding what they must mean to everyone.
Vistesd, you are mistaken. All you need to do is read the 12 steps of AA, to clearly see that God MUST be involved with recovery.
The 'higher power' issue is just a front.....a quaint lie. I have shared that my friend in AA chose the OCEAN as a higher power, and failed. The higher power issue falls badly when introduced to the 12 steps of AA.
Please ...[text shortened]... do battle with you. But, on this front, I am correct. God is most required in one's recovery.
I suggest that you quit using the program to generate debate here.
At least tell your group and your sponsor what you are doing!
It is not something that I will engage in public debate on.
Be well.