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Do you believe in Heaven or Hell even if you do belong to a religion? Some do but an astonishing amount of people don't. I am curious as to how many don't.
Originally posted by Black QueenI reckon heaven and hell is just a fantasy made up in this lifetime based on 10% skills/gifts, 20% work put in towards either/or, and 70% luck!
Ha ha... The next life. And what do you mean- you're soaking in it?
Originally posted by mokkoIf the documentary claimed to know an exact point in time when certain beliefs were formed then I don't think it was as good a documentary as you say. For a start your post rather assumes that the whole world is one small village and that all concepts of heaven and hell have a single root. I am sure that many different cultures throughout the world have had similar beliefs which have developed in various ways over time and that the people who wrote the Bible were influenced by many different cultures and beliefs.
There was a very good documentary on a few months back on the phsycology of imagery. It shows the origins of where the concepts of heaven and hell came from (pre bible) I found it very interesting to see the exact point in time where the dual imagery of heaven (glorious afterlife filled with happiness and love) and hell (raging beasts and damnation) joined together and under what circumstances it occured.
I don't believe in heaven or hell.
Originally posted by twhiteheadWell it was some time ago and it was focused on the phsycology of imagery but it did delve into different cultures around the world with different historical realities. One culture was consumed with images of brutal and violent images of death. There was no evidence of a so called heaven experience depicted in any of it's artifacts. The drawings and sculptures reflected their reality of death and tribal wars. The phsycology used was one to entice unity in defending against rival tribes and a painfull and punishing afterlife if you failed in your unity.
If the documentary claimed to know an exact point in time when certain beliefs were formed then I don't think it was as good a documentary as you say. For a start your post rather assumes that the whole world is one small village and that all concepts of heaven and hell have a single root. I am sure that many different cultures throughout the world have h ...[text shortened]... hey grow up, tend to keep the threatening image of hell and this perpetuates the various myths.
Originally posted by mokkoYou got rather mixed up in your descriptions, especially when it comes to the romans. I am fairly sure that the concepts of heaven and hell in the Bible predate the romans by a long time.
Well it was some time ago and it was focused on the phsycology of imagery but it did delve into different cultures around the world with different historical realities. One culture was consumed with images of brutal and violent images of death. There was no evidence of a so called heaven experience depicted in any of it's artifacts. The drawings and sculptures ...[text shortened]... gle imagery cultures where both good and evil images are depicted.
The rest is history.
Originally posted by twhiteheadI only watched the show some months ago. I didn't produce it. I'm sure that I in no way can recite everything it said from memory. The facts may be sckewed due to my shoddy memory but the sentiment is there. Wish I could remember what network I seen it on. It would make more sense if I got it right.
You got rather mixed up in your descriptions, especially when it comes to the romans. I am fairly sure that the concepts of heaven and hell in the Bible predate the romans by a long time.
You also imply that the concepts suddenly started at one point in history and spread worldwide almost instantaneously and have no other source.
As I said, a very narrow minded view of the world.