@moonbussaid I've tried all kinds of things without believing anything about them in advance.
You tried them, because, you were looking for a way that would work? Unless you were brain dead and totally ignorant and were acting without any reason or hope.
@moonbussaid The bottom line for KJ and many other Chrtistians I might add, is: they believe that belief matters, that God is going to judge what is in their minds.
It is a bizarre dogma, that only people who have a certain set of beliefs are going to heaven and that everyone else is going to hell in a handbasket.
God is going to judge us in righteousness!, you are suggesting a checklist?
@kellyjaysaid: "You have to believe that what you are doing will show you what you are looking for, if that wasn’t true would you do it?"
Me: He's right.
@moonbussaid:
"I've tried all kinds of things without believing anything about them in advance."
Me: He's right.
Someone: "He's right and he's right. They can't both be right."