26 Nov '10 08:38>
Originally posted by karoly aczelThe Vedas describe this material world as being a perverted reflection of the spiritual world, just like when you stand at the edge of a river, and look at your reflection, its up side down (perverted).......so this world is similar to the spiritual world, because in the spiritual world you will find, trees, lakes, rivers, mountains, sky, clouds, sun (spiritual sun) roads made of jewels, buildings animals, etc...........but everything is conscious and alive, the trees are alive and can converse with you, and so can the animals (everything), and the air is surcharged with bliss and love.
Firstly let me say that that whole "working without attachments" thing is so true. (sorry, could've worded that better).
Those verses were very good but lets just skip back to your bhuddist/zen quote:
"before enlightenment chop wood, and after enlightenment chop wood."
Now thats all very good 'n' all but what happens "DURING" ?
Here's another one- ...[text shortened]... ly the opposite of how things really are....
hence the title of the thread...
The clouds are alive, and if its too hot, they come over to you and give you shade, and the animals can speak to you, and they all love you, and you love them.
The trees are called desire trees, and if you walk passed a tree and feel like anything at all, the tree will produce it instantly for you
The ground that you walk on is alive, and if you think it is too hard, the ground will make itself softer.
In this world, everything is dead, and things are only animated by the presence of the soul within...the soul is the living thing, not matter.
Every single living being in the spiritual world is having a unique relationship with God, (God expands himself into unlimited expansions of himself,) but each person, doesn't know that God is God.......God is not disclosed as God, but God is playing a in a role for the benefit of that particular relationship.
God is the ultimate game player, and appears to each person just the way they want him to appear.