Originally posted by apathist I'm experienced about the ubur-verse. What level are we attacking here? We may be a dream, but then what about the dreamer?
I was attacking at the level of; the model "is" or "will be" reality at some point. A never-ending self referencing closed loop computation.
"What level are we attacking here? We may be a dream, but then what about the dreamer?"
I think that is the same level as I mentioned. Logic so obviously inescapable with a truth so absurd and incomprehensible.