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    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/


    The numbers are coming in and it looks like 80 percent of all covid deaths are people who are 65 or older. Over half of covid deaths are people who are 75 years or older. Based on the numbers, people under 65 who have a well functioning immune system are in no danger of death from Covid.

    For the age group under 20, chicken pox is a deadlier disease.

    Just putting things into perspective.
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    https://www.heritage.org/data-visualizations/public-health/covid-19-deaths-by-age/

    From the link

    According to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, COVID-19 is deadliest among older populations. In fact, through February 17, 93 percent of COVID-19 deaths nationwide have occurred among those ages 55 or older.


    --I really like this link. I believe its graphs are better, especially the graphs comparing covid deaths to total deaths for each age group. It is clear that covid is not a medical concern for typical people below the age of 65. Only people with sever immune issues should be concerned about covid.
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    I suppose it is time to ask a question for discussion.

    Does covid represent a medical threat requiring CDC action when it comes to those 45 and younger?
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    @eladar said
    I suppose it is time to ask a question for discussion.

    Does covid represent a medical threat requiring CDC action when it comes to those 45 and younger?
    I agree. The problem is that we live in a pharmaceutical dictatorship and most people refuse to accept their government doesn't care about them.

    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/kids-benefits-covid-vaccine-dont-outweigh-risks/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=e836bb91-3322-4204-80ee-5346782a1ceb

    You cannot even mention ivermectin on youtube without being censored.

    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/16/ivermectin-for-covid-19-infection.aspx?ui=457be402db96691546e339b2f3eab0035606bfd9b0b7e877f9d7697e75ac0859&sd=19000101&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210616_HL2&mid=DM903814&rid=1184374954&p4=20210309&p5=

    There are some people who cannot safely take the covid vaccine. To deny them HCQ and ivermectin amounts to a crime. Fauci and others should be in prison for pushing remdesivir while suppressing HCQ and ivermectin. They only want people to buy expensive drugs that benefit big pharma.
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    @Metal-Brain

    The Federal government and big business are one and the same.
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    @eladar said
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/


    The numbers are coming in and it looks like 80 percent of all covid deaths are people who are 65 or older. Over half of covid deaths are people who are 75 years or older. Based on the numbers, people under 65 who have a well functioning immune system are in no danger of death from Covid.
    ...[text shortened]... the age group under 20, chicken pox is a deadlier disease.

    Just putting things into perspective.
    After some thought there is no use discussing anything.
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    @eladar said
    @Metal-Brain

    The Federal government and big business are one and the same.
    Yep
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    @Ponderable

    Yes, I know. You do not want to discuss facts.

    If you did, you could tell me how many children 0 to 17 have been killed by covid and compare that number to other childhood diseases such as chickenpox. Given that Covid is a new virus you would expect its results to be much more devestating since there were no children with immunity.
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    @eladar said
    @Ponderable

    Yes, I know. You do not want to discuss facts.

    If you did, you could tell me how many children 0 to 17 have been killed by covid and compare that number to other childhood diseases such as chickenpox. Given that Covid is a new virus you would expect its results to be much more devestating since there were no children with immunity.
    Facts: Di you or did you not claim that we would have less than 60.000 deaths; now there is 586.000

    fact or not?

    Oh and before you ridicule the 2 mlion again you were off by at least the factor 10 WITH measures, while the 2 million (which was not my estimate) is off only by a fgactor of three. fact or not?
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    @ponderable said
    Facts: Di you or did you not claim that we would have less than 60.000 deaths; now there is 586.000

    fact or not?

    Oh and before you ridicule the 2 mlion again you were off by at least the factor 10 WITH measures, while the 2 million (which was not my estimate) is off only by a fgactor of three. fact or not?
    Fact, you are not willing to deal with this issue.

    Instead you try to change the subject. Fact, you do not care about truth, as a matter of fact, you want to change to subject to avoid the truth. Sad.

    By the way, I never claimed a total of 60k deaths in multiple years. That guess was for the flu season ending in May of 2020.
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    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html

    Considering the fact that 75 and older make up half of covid deaths and those death rates are 3200 and 8700 times higher than death rates for 5-17 year olds, the actual death rate for 5-17 year olds must be a very small number. Based on the number of deaths for that category given the millions and millions of kids who have had covid, that makes sense.

    Found the total deaths page.

    https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-by-Sex-and-Age/9bhg-hcku/data

    Turns out for 0 to 17 there were a total of 46 977 deaths of which covid accounted for 322 deaths. Covid is definitely not a major health concern kids 0 to 17. Covid makes up less than .7 percent of all deaths for kids.
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    https://news.yahoo.com/vaccine-experts-having-second-thoughts-100022396.html

    No one is arguing that COVID-19 immunizations for kids should stop altogether. Rather, a debate has erupted over the need to inoculate healthy children as soon as possible and according to the two-dose regimen authorized by the Food and Drug Administration.



    --Looks like some people are starting to get the message.
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    Now for hospitalization rates. I am assuming that the actual number of Covid Cases is 10 times the test identified cases.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1122354/covid-19-us-hospital-rate-by-age/

    Based on these numbers, these are the probablility of being hospitalized by age group

    overall .0001782
    0-4 .0000184
    5-17 .0000106
    18-29 .0000785
    30-39 .0001214
    40-49 .0001768
    50-64 .0002663
    65-74 .0003615
    75-84 .0005726
    85 plus .0008658


    Even for 85 and older, you would expect to see 1 hospitalization in 1 155 covid cases.

    For the 5-17 you would expect to see 1 hosptialization in 94 340 cases.
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    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/kids-benefits-covid-vaccine-dont-outweigh-risks/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=e836bb91-3322-4204-80ee-5346782a1ceb
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    @metal-brain said
    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/kids-benefits-covid-vaccine-dont-outweigh-risks/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=e836bb91-3322-4204-80ee-5346782a1ceb
    From the link

    May 26, two papers recently published in the journal of Hospital Pediatrics, found pediatric hospitalizations for COVID were overcounted by at least 40%, carrying potential implications for nationwide figures used to justify vaccinating children.
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