Breakthrough in the production of hydrogen!:

http://phys.org/news/2013-04-breakthrough-hydrogen-fuel-production-revolutionize.html

Getting 300% more hydrogen out of biomass and the conversion making more energy than what was in the biomass in the first place.

This can be a game changer from the production end anyway. They still have to work up storage methods with enough density of H2 to run cars.

Originally posted by sonhouse
http://phys.org/news/2013-04-breakthrough-hydrogen-fuel-production-revolutionize.html

Getting 300% more hydrogen out of biomass and the conversion making more energy than what was in the biomass in the first place.

This can be a game changer from the production end anyway. They still have to work up storage methods with enough density of H2 to run cars.

Hydrogen cars are little more than a ploy by the US auto industry to delay the onset of electric cars. Hydrogen for other purposes I have no problem with although I would like to see and analysis of the relative efficiencies of solar panels and plants.

Also the claim of energy gain seems highly dubious to me. How does that work again? Perpetual machine?

Originally posted by twhitehead
Hydrogen cars are little more than a ploy by the US auto industry to delay the onset of electric cars. Hydrogen for other purposes I have no problem with although I would like to see and analysis of the relative efficiencies of solar panels and plants.

Also the claim of energy gain seems highly dubious to me. How does that work again? Perpetual machine?

I think it just means there is more chemical energy available in biomass that this new process taps into that ends up as waste in other processes.

Originally posted by sonhouse
I think it just means there is more chemical energy available in biomass that this new process taps into that ends up as waste in other processes.

But that is not what the article seems to say, nor what your original post says. Improved efficiency, I understand, efficiency over 100% just doesn't make sense.