13 Oct '08 04:08>
Originally posted by FabianFnasFab, did you perchance read the October issue of Scientific American?
I'll try to answer parts of the [b]"How dense can we humans make an object? I mean, if we put an object in a diamond vise or something and squeeze it really tight and give it nowhere to go but 'in,' can we start to make objects with extremely high densities? Are those object stable, or upon release, do those objects expand to less dense structures?" ...[text shortened]... wrong here and there. So you are allowed to give alternate explanations if you like.[/b]
There is an article by a VERY smart dude, Martin Bojowald, Assistant prof at Penn State University, where he basically turned the Big Bang 180 degrees around and using quantum loop gravity, deduced the presence of these objects he calls "Space atoms' for want of a better word. His work gets rid of the Relativistic limits where in the BB, the density looks like it goes to infinity which just means relativity breaks down at that level. His new work says each space atom is the size of the Plank distance and during the BB time each space atom holds the mass of 1 trillion stars! Mind boggling stuff, eh. So using that as a starting point, I did some arithmetic, calling one galaxy approx. equal to 1 trillion stars and we know we can see about 100 billion galaxies (we think there are more we can't see but I am just using the ones we can see) and taking the cube root, come out with a size of the volume of the space atoms at maximum crunch, of about 4600 atoms cubed.(4641 to the third power~= 100,000,000,000)
So I googled him, found his email address, he is only about 60 miles from me here in Pennsylvania, and showed him my calcs and asked him one more question, besides if I was more or less in the ballpark as to how many space atoms it takes to make a universe, the next question I put to him was this: If that number is more or less correct, how close does the density come inside a black hole, is it near the level of the BB space atom density?
So I just sent that email tonight, I'll put his reply, if any, on this thread. Don