31 May '18 13:28>
What is the time delay for audio transmissions between earth and the moon?
Originally posted by @freakykbhAnd double that for round trip actual conversation. Distance to Luna varies between 221,500 miles (or in civilized units, 356,393 Km) to 252,700 miles. 406,594 Km which means min of 1.189 seconds one way to 1.357 seconds one way.
What is the time delay for audio transmissions between earth and the moon?
Originally posted by @sonhouseYou're a smart guy.
And double that for round trip actual conversation. Distance to Luna varies between 221,500 miles (or in civilized units, 356,393 Km) to 252,700 miles. 406,594 Km which means min of 1.189 seconds one way to 1.357 seconds one way.
There is a tech you undoubtedly know nothing about: Amateur radio operators talking from moonbounce.
They have massive ...[text shortened]... r thereabouts.
So there are two sets of people using the moon as reflector.
Your point is?
Originally posted by @freakykbhAgain, what drugs are you on now? What has NASA to do with moonbounce amateur radio? Do you deny we hams can do such a thing? I don't want to make this into 20 questions.
You're a smart guy.
Figure out the point for yourself.
HINT: NASA ain't bound by your puny calculations or rules, even.
Originally posted by @sonhouseWith a delay, is instaneous conversation at ALL possible--- anything wherein the relay could overlap or not require a minimum of, say, 1.23 seconds to deliver?
Again, what drugs are you on now? What has NASA to do with moonbounce amateur radio? Do you deny we hams can do such a thing? I don't want to make this into 20 questions.
If you have a point, point it out, otherwise go back to the kiddies forum.
Originally posted by @freakykbhThe whole idea of instantaneous transmission of information seems so far forbidden.
With a delay, is instaneous conversation at ALL possible--- anything wherein the relay could overlap or not require a minimum of, say, 1.23 seconds to deliver?
Originally posted by @sonhouseSo what you're saying is...
The whole idea of instantaneous transmission of information seems so far forbidden.
Unless there is a way we could work out quantum superposition which SEEMS to be instantaneous but the universe may work in such a way as even if it is instant, we can't use it for transmission of data instantly.
We are so far stuck with the speed of light and that sucks ...[text shortened]... ound trip data cycle.
You may choose to poo poo all of that but that is how it is in reality.
It isn't possible to have LESS THAN 1.23 seconds of delay between audio transmissions.
Originally posted by @freakykbhYou can't think through even that detail? OF COURSE it is POSSIBLE to have less than a second delay. I requires the transmitter and receiver to be closer than Luna.
So what you're saying is...It isn't possible to have LESS THAN 1.23 seconds of delay between audio transmissions.
Is this true?
Originally posted by @sonhouseLet me ask it another way.
You can't think through even that detail? OF COURSE it is POSSIBLE to have less than a second delay. I requires the transmitter and receiver to be closer than Luna.
For instance, the ISS is a couple hundred miles up but the horizontal distance to a dish might be more like 2000 miles and in that case the round trip is 4000 miles and that is roughly 50 m ...[text shortened]... crash into something or go over a cliff.
So remote control is totally out for such vehicles.
Originally posted by @freakykbhWhat part of a round trip time do you not understand? lets say it is 240,000 miles to the moon and lets call it a 1 and 1/4 second time to get the signal to the moon and then you reply in one second. So 1.25 plus 1 plus 1.25 seconds =3.5 seconds. What don't you understand about that? If I reply in one half second, the round trip is 3 seconds.
Let me ask it another way.
You're standing on the moon.
I'm standing on my front porch, sipping a lemonade (made from freshly squeezed Meyer lemons which had been stored in a climate-controlled air-inducted cooling container--- laypeople such as yourself call it a refrigerator--- within 16 hours of harvest to ensure maximum optimal sugar-to-tart ratio ...[text shortened]... fore I hear them?
As in, what is the smallest amount of time between you saying and me hearing?
Originally posted by @sonhouseRocket science.
What part of a round trip time do you not understand? lets say it is 240,000 miles to the moon and lets call it a 1 and 1/4 second time to get the signal to the moon and then you reply in one second. So 1.25 plus 1 plus 1.25 seconds =3.5 seconds. What don't you understand about that? If I reply in one half second, the round trip is 3 seconds.
Is there s ...[text shortened]... o 12 microseconds goes by between emission of pulse and return.
This is not rocket science.
Originally posted by @freakykbhYes, did you not see my post showing the speed of light is about 6 microseconds per mile?
Rocket science.
Riiiight.
It ain't rocket science.
If it takes the originally stated 1.23 seconds at a minimum, it simply isn't possible for the transmission to be heard until that 1.23 seconds has passed.
We couldn't have immediate conversation, but rather, delayed.
Delayed by 1.23 seconds between each burst of response.
So if you were to hear ...[text shortened]... would know the people conversing could not be the stated distance apart.
Do I have it right?
Originally posted by @sonhouseInterested?
Yes, did you not see my post showing the speed of light is about 6 microseconds per mile?
So one mile apart, you won't know about it for 6 microseconds after transmission starts and the return takes 12 microseconds.
So the bit with the 1.25 odd seconds light needs to traverse the distance from Earth to Luna would be the minimum time you could know a sign ...[text shortened]... r agenda having to do with the flat Earth stuff?
I am trying not to inject pejoratives here.
Originally posted by @freakykbhAh, now I see your agenda. The answer to your question is yes, we cannot be on the moon if the time delay is less than 1.2 seconds. Actually less than 2.5 seconds.
Interested?
You're kidding, right?
I'm the one who brought it up.
I'm going to characterize you as agreeing with the following claim, so correct it if it's wrong in any way, shape or form.
It is not necessary for you to add anything, to elaborate quantum physics, black holes or any other incidental information.
A simple yes or no is all that is requi ...[text shortened]...
If your transmission to me takes less than 1.23 seconds, you cannot be on the moon.
Yes or no?
Originally posted by @sonhouseDamn!
Ah, now I see your agenda. The answer to your question is yes, we cannot be on the moon if the time delay is less than 1.2 seconds. Actually less than 2.5 seconds.
So now your other shoe drops, conclusive proof the moon landing communications were instantaneous therefore the moon landings were fake.
How am I doing so far?