Ruy Possibilities.

As white I prefer the closed ruy lopez while as black I prefer what I like to call the "Kramnik variation" 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 4.0-0 Nxe4 5.d4 Nd6 6.Bxc6 dxc6 7.dxe5 Nf5 8.Qxd8+ Kxd8 9.Nc3 Bd7 and the game is over...

Originally posted by najdorfslayer
Don't think so not with last 6 months or so or else I would have known

There's one still going on that started in January.

Tournament 1706

And good fun it is too!

Originally posted by mtthw
There's one still going on that started in January.

Tournament 1706

And good fun it is too!

Damn! Must've missed that one...wouldn't have minded playing.

Originally posted by Northern Lad
I've had the line 5...Be7 6.Nc3 0-0 7.Bc4+ Kh8 OTB and can't remember any particular difficulties for black.

Whats your suggestion after 8.Ng5 ?

Originally posted by Korch
Whats your suggestion after 8.Ng5 ?

Why not 8...Qe8?

Originally posted by Northern Lad
Lots of things are written in books, but they're not all right. I'm a bit wary of the objectivity of repertoire books where white always seems to gain an advantage, or if it's a black opening, black always seems to equalise at least!

As for 4.Bxc6 against the Schliemann, I actually quite enjoy playing against it (more so than against the normal Excha ...[text shortened]... ost certainly play 4.Nc3 against the Schliemann; it is by far the most critical variation.

Thanks I will check this out

Do you know of any good books on the Schliemann.

Offbeat Spanish by Flear is all I have 🙁

Originally posted by najdorfslayer
Thanks I will check this out

Do you know of any good books on the Schliemann.

Offbeat Spanish by Flear is all I have 🙁

Flear's book has one or two interesting ideas, but is not specifically on the Schliemann and is in any case not meant to be a comprehensive guide. As far as I know, there are no decent current books on the Schliemann. Yudasin and Soloviev's textless book was at least very comprehensive though incredibly user-unfriendly, but that's 13 years old now. Nigel Davies has adopted the Schliemann in one of his repertoire books, which I might be tempted to get hold of despite my previously mentioned misgivings.

Originally posted by Northern Lad
Why not 8...Qe8?

8...Qe8 9.exf5

for an update on the efficacy of 4.d3 in the schliemann see World Cup round 2 game 1. .macieja-radjabov in khanty-mansiysk the pole had his way with a member of the 2700 club

Originally posted by parinda
for an update on the efficacy of 4.d3 in the schliemann see World Cup round 2 game 1. .macieja-radjabov in khanty-mansiysk the pole had his way with a member of the 2700 club

[Event "World Chess Cup"]
[Site "Khanty-Mansiysk RUS"]
[Date "2007.11.27"]
[EventDate "2007.11.24"]
[Round "2.1"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "B Macieja"]
[Black "T Radjabov"]
[ECO "C63"]
[WhiteElo "2606"]
[BlackElo "2742"]
[PlyCount "94"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 f5 4. d3 fxe4 5. dxe4 Nf6 6. O-O Bc5 7. Bxc6
bxc6 8. Nxe5 O-O 9. Bg5 Qe8 10. Bxf6 Rxf6 11. Nd3 Bd4 12. c3 Bb6 13. Nd2 d6
14. c4 Qg6 15. Kh1 Bg4 16. f3 Be6 17. f4 Bg4 18. Qe1 Re8 19. c5 Bxc5 20.
Nxc5 dxc5 21. h3 Bc8 22. Qe3 Qh6 23. Rf3 Rd8 24. Nc4 Rd4 25. b3 Qh4 26.
Raf1 Rf8 27. Ne5 Qf6 28. Rc1 Qd6 29. Nxc6 Rd1+ 30. Rxd1 Qxd1+ 31. Kh2 Qd6
32. Ne5 Bb7 33. Nd3 c4 34. bxc4 Re8 35. Ne5 c5 36. Rf2 Rd8 37. Rb2 Ba8 38.
Nf3 Rf8 39. e5 Qe6 40. Qxc5 Qf5 41. Qe3 Be4 42. c5 Bd5 43. Rd2 Ba8 44. Nd4
Qxf4+ 45. Qxf4 Rxf4 46. Ne6 Rc4 47. Ng5 1-0

Originally posted by Korch
8...Qe8 9.exf5

Yes, but so what? You've just taken the gambit pawn you spurned a few moves ago. The position's unclear, though I feel black should be OK. 9...Nd4, Na5, and h6 can all be considered.

Originally posted by Northern Lad
Yes, but so what? You've just taken the gambit pawn you spurned a few moves ago. The position's unclear, though I feel black should be OK. 9...Nd4, Na5, and h6 can all be considered.

After 9.exf5 white has extra pawn and I dont see real compensation
for black. All three moves you mentioned gives white better play.

Originally posted by Korch
After 9.exf5 white has extra pawn and I dont see real compensation
for black. all three moves you did mention gives white better play.

Ok, it bothers me how you form past tense, you've done this since you've been on here and it's always bothered me...

It's not "you did mention," it's "you mentioned" the word did is incorrect, simply throw the ed on. That's generally how you form the past tense forms.

Originally posted by cmsMaster
Ok, it bothers me how you form past tense, you've done this since you've been on here and it's always bothered me...

It's not "you did mention," it's "you mentioned" the word did is incorrect, simply throw the ed on. That's generally how you form the past tense forms.

corrected

Originally posted by Korch
corrected

🙂 Thank you.