Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no need to apologise, simply kiss my ruby encrusted ring and shuffle off backwards
bowing your head as you go. One makes the football team, in that they have reached
the goal of ascertaining a position on the football team, not that they have physically
made a football team. I realise that pointing out dogmatic thinking may be painful,
never the less, you stand corrected and have taken your medicine well.
It amuses me that you think you're making yourself look good in this thread, and that you're making everyone who's against you look silly. I'm going to give you a bunch of phrases which all feature the word "make", and I'd like you to decide what they all have in common (other than "attaining a goal" ).
a high school student: "I made the football team!"
a lawyer: "I made partner!"
a sports fan: "Our team made the playoffs!"
a proud parent: "My son's recital made the paper!"
scroll down for the answer....
be honest, you thought you'd have to scroll a lot farther.....
Anyway, all of those statements have one thing in common: they imply that the subject of the sentence, was accepted into a group. The high school student was accepted and became part of the team. The lawyer was accepted into a law firm as a partner. The team performed well enough to be included among the teams that participate in the postseason. The kid's recital was newsworthy enough to be included in the paper among the other stories of the day. That's what "make" actually means, in the context in which you're trying to use it. Inclusion. Not achievement. Otherwise, "I made first place," would sound correct. And be honest with yourself.....it doesn't.
This is to say nothing of the fact that castling could hardly even be considered an achievement. You could do it as early as move 4, and your opponent can't stop you.