Originally posted by Fat Lady According to the FIDE rules, the arbiter/controller is the person who decides on the outcome of the game. The person whose phone went off will get zero points, but the other player may get zero, half or a full point at the discretion of the arbiter.
I can't believe that is entirely the case. I once put this issue to the renowned arbiter Geurt Gijssen. The only time such an instance doesn't lead to a straight loss for the player whose mobile phone has gone off, would seem to be if it happens before his opponent has got to the board. If the opponent then failed to turn up before the default time, there would be a double default.
Originally posted by Katastroof It's not that difficult to turn off a cellphone.Are people so addicted to their little toy they can't do without it for a few hours?
Some may be addicted, but I suspect that most of the time they just forget to turn it off. In Nigel's case, he actually did turn it off. He was forfeited when the phone's low battery alarm went off. 😞
Originally posted by Mad Rook Some may be addicted, but I suspect that most of the time they just forget to turn it off. In Nigel's case, he actually did turn it off. He was forfeited when the phone's low battery alarm went off. 😞
Hm,if the phone is turned off the battery alarm cannot go off.Or can it?I assume he set it to some sort of silent mode?
Anyway,I guess people will have to add it to their mental checklist before a game: 1.board and pieces? check! 2.pen + scoresheet? check! 3.am I fully clothed? check! 4.cellphone's off? check!
It's beyond my understanding.Guess I really am an old fart who lost touch with modern day society 😞
Originally posted by Mad Rook Some may be addicted, but I suspect that most of the time they just forget to turn it off. In Nigel's case, he actually did turn it off. He was forfeited when the phone's low battery alarm went off. 😞
I wonder if he could sue the company.
He should do, that would put chess back in the headlines.
They (the press) only seem interested in chess when something
silly like this happens.
Originally posted by Katastroof Hm,if the phone is turned off the battery alarm cannot go off.Or can it?I assume he set it to some sort of silent mode?
According to the ChessVibes report, Nigel claims to have turned off the phone, and he thinks the low battery warning somehow must have overridden the turned off status.
Originally posted by greenpawn34 I wonder if he could sue the company.
He should do, that would put chess back in the headlines.
They (the press) only seem interested in chess when something
silly like this happens.
Yes! When in doubt, sue! It's the only litigious thing to do! 😀
Originally posted by Mad Rook According to the ChessVibes report, Nigel claims to have turned off the phone, and he thinks the low battery warning somehow must have overridden the turned off status.
Think I'll buy a bunch of mobiles to sneak them in the jacket of my opponents with the alarm set(if I can figure out how LOL).In a few years I'll write history by being the world's weakest GM 😏
Actually,someone is bound to try this sooner or later.You can bet on it!
I was playing in the Scottish championships a couple of years ago. I had switched off my phone (in front of my opponent) but somehow managed to accidentally switch it on in my pocket during the game! The arbiter spoke to my opponent, who said he didn't want to win the game that way, so we continued. I was so put off by the incident though that I offered a draw (at move 10!)-just couldn't concentrate.
Then a year or so ago in the National League (Scottish) I again switched off my phone, but during the game my alarm went off! Again my opponent refused to take the win.
Both times I was prepared to lose the game as it was my own stupid fault, but if the rule is to prevent cheating, then it's good that an arbiter has some discretion in these cases.
Now I triple-check my phone is off, and then bury it in molten lead 7 miles underground during games just to be sure : )
Originally posted by Katastroof Anyway,I guess people will have to add it to their mental checklist before a game: 1.board and pieces? check! 2.pen + scoresheet? check! 3.am I fully clothed? check! 4.cellphone's off? check!
Well yes they should ... although personally I don't have to bother with point three as I always play naked.
When I work I have to have my phone off 90% of the day. I've never - and I mean NEVER - had my phone ring or make any kind of noise when I need it not to. It's because for professional reasons I need to not have it ring and therefore I make sure it won't ring.
For similar reasons I've never had my phone go off in a theatre or at the cinema.
It's really quite easy and just involves giving a little thought and respect to other people.
David Tebb won in round 7, bringing him up to 50% for the tournament so far.
It was an interesting game where David clearly had the initiative. He offered an exchange sac, which his opponent declined, then David won the exchange himself a move or two later, forcing his opponent to resign.
I remember a time when I was playing a county match and felt my phone start vibrating in my pocket. It was not too loud so my opponent didnt hear but it went on and on and on so eventually I got up and went outside to give whoever it was a good bit of abuse for ringing me in an important match. It turned out that it was a message from myself, reminding me that I had chess that day.... D'OH!
Adams vs Short today. Should be interesting as Short seems to be playing pretty well recently. The game can be seen live here: http://www.liverpoolchessinternational.co.uk/live.htm from 2:00pm onwards.
Should be a good one, but my money is on Adams. He has white, and needs to win.
Short is much better with the white pieces than he is with black (more so than many other top players in my opinion) so he'll have a tough time I imagine.
European Chess International in Liverpool
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