A thought, to catch out machine cheats...
04 Jan '12 18:441 editIt's the first game of the 1997 Kasparov-Deep Blue match. Kasparov was white.
Edit: I wonder what the matchup rates are for each one!
Edit: I wonder what the matchup rates are for each one!
04 Jan '12 20:12Originally posted by Paul LeggettFor Kasparov:
It's the first game of the 1997 Kasparov-Deep Blue match. Kasparov was white.
Edit: I wonder what the matchup rates are for each one!
04 Jan '12 20:22Originally posted by Paul LeggettFor Deep Blue:
It's the first game of the 1997 Kasparov-Deep Blue match. Kasparov was white.
Edit: I wonder what the matchup rates are for each one!
04 Jan '12 20:35Originally posted by SmittyTimeZygalski's method says to be suspected you need:
So, if that game were played here, would Kasparov's match up rate draw accusations of engine use on these boards?
Are there folks here who usually match up at rates higher than Kasparov? If so, it would be interesting to hear the explanation from such folks.
04 Jan '12 20:52Originally posted by VarenkaNo.. but I doubt this is a one-off. As World Champ he should be able to sustain his highest level of play over a long stint.
Remember that a single game is not a big enough sample. Many games need to be analysed and averaged. See Zygalski's post for full details.
04 Jan '12 21:11Originally posted by thaughbaerYou're making the mistake of confusing strong human play with engine-like chess.
No.. but I doubt this is a one-off. As World Champ he should be able to sustain his highest level of play over a long stint.
04 Jan '12 23:21Originally posted by Paul Leggetthah, the circle is complete: I first learned chess when I saw the documentary, and began wondering what was going on in the games they showed. I had no idea, I didn't know how pieces moved or anything. so I went online and looked up the rules. then I ran into 'basic opening principles', and was into training tactics within the first two weeks if I remember correctly. it was like heroin right from the beginning. never got back to the deep blue games.
It's the first game of the 1997 Kasparov-Deep Blue match. Kasparov was white.
Edit: I wonder what the matchup rates are for each one!
04 Jan '12 23:421 editOriginally posted by VarenkaHi Varenka,
Remember that a single game is not a big enough sample. Many games need to be analysed and averaged. See Zygalski's post for full details.
05 Jan '12 09:53Originally posted by ZygalskiTo help emphasise this point I ran the exact same analysis again for the same single game:
The match rate methodology thresholds aren't applicable to a single game with a minuscule sample size.
05 Jan '12 10:00Originally posted by Paul LeggettI think you have a point. I believe that modern engines are closer to Kasparov positionally than they are to Deep Blue. But tactically, I think Houdini will play more like Deep Blue. So, as you suggest, it may depend on the nature of the game in question.
that Houdini would play more like Kasparov than Deep Blue.
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