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[b]R. Tomasevic, StrateGems 2018

Black to move
White and Black collaborate with the aim of white stalemating black on white's 14th move [help-stalemate in 14]

The Posers and Puzzles forum wants none of this.

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Using those pawns and some of the pieces I can get this set up.


Black plays 1...c2+ 2.Kc1 stalemate.


But getting there in 14 moves is beyond me.

Not a solution rather an attempt at creating a spark in someone's
else's imagination and to explain in detail what you are looking for.

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Originally posted by @greenpawn34
Using those pawns and some of the pieces I can get this set up.

[fen]8/8/8/8/1p6/bpp5/kr6/nb1K4 b - - 0 1[/fen]
Black plays 1...c2+ 2.Kc1 stalemate.

[fen]8/8/8/8/1p6/bp6/krp5/nbK5 b - - 0 2[/fen]
But getting there in 14 moves is beyond me.

Not a solution rather an attempt at creating a spark in someone's
else's imagination and to explain in detail what you are looking for.
oh...d'oh!

the piece on b1 is protected


but...you da man....so, try again?!

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Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
[b]R. Tomasevic, StrateGems 2018
[fen]r3b2k/bn1p4/p7/1p2p3/2p5/pp6/1qn2pr1/7K[/fen]
Black to move
White and Black collaborate with the aim of white stalemating black on white's 14th move [help-stalemate in 14]

The Posers and Puzzles forum wants none of this.
Hint: the f2 pawn must be sacrificed quickly.

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Originally posted by @greenpawn34
Using those pawns and some of the pieces I can get this set up.

[fen]8/8/8/8/1p6/bpp5/kr6/nb1K4 b - - 0 1[/fen]
Black plays 1...c2+ 2.Kc1 stalemate.

[fen]8/8/8/8/1p6/bp6/krp5/nbK5 b - - 0 2[/fen]
But getting there in 14 moves is beyond me.

Not a solution rather an attempt at creating a spark in someone's
else's imagination and to explain in detail what you are looking for.
Aha! Alas, in the intended solution, black only has one K and a P.

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That took me an hour!

I can't get the game viewer to work in this post (even by making it White to move at the start) and I don't want to spend another hour on that, so here are the moves:

1... Qe5 2. Kxg2 Nd4 3. Kxf2 Nf3+ 4. Kxf3 Qe4+ 5. Kxe4 d5+
6. Kxd5 Bc6+ 7. Kxc6 Kg7 8. Kxb7 Kf6 9. Kxa8 Ke5
10. Kxa7 Kd4 11. Kxa6 Kc3 12. Kxb5 Kb2 13. Kxc4 Ka1 14. Kxb3 a2 15. Kc2

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Originally posted by @mynameisklint
That took me an hour!

I can't get the game viewer to work in this post (even by making it White to move at the start) and I don't want to spend another hour on that, so here are the moves:

1... Qe5 2. Kxg2 Nd4 3. Kxf2 Nf3+ 4. Kxf3 Qe4+ 5. Kxe4 d5+
6. Kxd5 Bc6+ 7. Kxc6 Kg7 8. Kxb7 Kf6 9. Kxa8 Ke5
10. Kxa7 Kd4 11. Kxa6 Kc3 12. Kxb5 Kb2 13. Kxc4 Ka1 14. Kxb3 a2 15. Kc2
You keep moving things to e5 when there is a pawn there! I've replaced your first move but it fails on your Ke5 in this position.


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Originally posted by @ragwort
You keep moving things to e5 when there is a pawn there! I've replaced your first move but it fails on your Ke5 in this position.


[pgn]
[FEN "r3b2k/bn1p4/p7/1p2p3/2p5/pp6/1qn2pr1/7K b - - 0 1"]
1. ... Qb1 2. Kxg2 Nd4 3. Kxf2 Nf3+ 4. Kxf3 Qe4+ 5. Kxe4 d5+ 6. Kxd5 Bc6+ 7. Kxc6 Kg7 8. Kxb7 Kf6 9. Kxa8 Ke5 10. Kxa7 Kd4 11. Kxa6 Kc3 12. Kxb5 Kb2 13. Kxc4 Ka1 14. Kxb3 a2 15. Kc2 [/pgn]
This sequence looks like it achieves the objective but it is a move too long.

[/b]

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That looks good.

I've been trying to smother the Black King with pieces.

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doh! I was solving the wrong problem - I set it up without a black pawn on e5. I'll try again. I'm 100% sure about the moves from 5. ... d5+, it's just a case of getting the king to d4 by taking a piece every move. I think it actually looks easier with the pawn on e5 as Black will have e4+ at some stage.

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Originally posted by @mynameisklint
[pgn]
[FEN "r3b2k/bn1p4/p7/1p2p3/2p5/pp6/1qn2pr1/7K b - - 0 1"]
1. ... f1=R+ 2. Kxg2 Rf3 3. Kxf3 e4+ 4. Kxe4 Qe5+ 5. Kxe5 d5 6. Kxd5 Bc6+ 7. Kxc6 Kg7 8. Kxb7 Kf6 9. Kxa8 Ke5 10. Kxa7 Kd4 11. Kxa6 Kc3 12. Kxb5 Kb2 13. Kxc4 Ka1 14. Kxb3 a2 15. Kxc2 [/pgn]
SOLV'D

Good job.

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Good one.

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I guess the composer was Radovan Tomašević, who seems to have often had a collaborator called Miloš Tomašević until the latter's death in 2002. They seem too close in age to have been father and son (born in 1941 and 1928 respectively) - were they brothers?

One of his two games on chessgames.com looks like a composition itself!
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1278691

And the other one is great fun:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1224938