1. e4 c5 2. c3

I vote 5...Nc6 another move knight into the centre move.🙂

Originally posted by National Master Dale
I vote 5...Nc6 another move knight into the centre move.🙂

Chess is so easy

Originally posted by heinzkat
Proposed set-up

[pgn]1. e4 c5 2. c3 Nf6 3. e5 Nd5 4. Nf3[/pgn]

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Very generally, I think Black has a very good version of Alekhine's defense. I used to play the Dragon, but got tired of facing the Alapin (2. c3), and I started looking at Alekhine's Defense to get some ideas about following up with 2. ... Nf6.

Once I studied it, I liked Alekhine's so much that I switched to it.

In any event, Black often plays the thematic ...c5 break in the Alekhine, whereas a pawn on c3 is not the most testing way of meeting it.

Perhaps if I viewed this as a "Caro Kann vs the English with colors reversed" I would have a different opinion?

Paul

Basically start 2. ... d5 3. exd5 Qxd5. Reasonable play

Excuse me just for a moment.

After 1. e4 c5 2. c3

You put the pawn back on c2, tell White to stop fannying about.
Put the g1 Knight on f3 and play 2...d6.

Or you could go to and look at Korch's games. He earned his living playing this 3.c3 stuff.

OK back to your....er.....fun.

after 1. e4 c5 2. c3 nf6 3. e5 nd5 4. nf3 -----black gets an excellent game after moves lyk d6 qb6 . Black has no trouble in this variation.

Originally posted by dstarr
Black has no trouble in this variation.

He has if his opponent's name is K.K. 😕

Originally posted by heinzkat
Black to move

What to do

1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6!?

3.d4 d5

A. 4.e5 (French Advance) Playable For Black

B. 4.exd5 exd5 Leads To Isolated Pawn Play After dxc5 ... Space/Center And Kingside Chances For Black ... d4 Square And d5 Weakness To Attack For White ...
Even Chances

Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromfics
1.e4 c5 2.c3 e6!?

3.d4 d5

A. 4.e5 (French Advance) Playable For Black

B. 4.exd5 exd5 Leads To Isolated Pawn Play After dxc5 ... Space/Center And Kingside Chances For Black ... d4 Square And d5 Weakness To Attack For White ...
Even Chances

Yes I was also hoping someone would give some transposition lines to the French, thanks

Not that I want the French though 😛

Originally posted by heinzkat
Proposed set-up

1. e4 c5 2. c3 Nf6 3. e5 Nd5 4. Nf3

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4...Nc6 5.Bc4 Nb6 6.Bb3 d5 7.exd6 Qxd6

your move.

Originally posted by wormwood
4...Nc6 5.Bc4 Nb6 6.Bb3 d5 7.exd6 Qxd6

your move.

This is why I will always stay a newbie

Good that I'll never have to play this from the White side

Looks simple enough from Black's perspective, will try it and report back

Originally posted by heinzkat
8. h3

8...Be6

Originally posted by wormwood
8...Be6

h3; it was not like Bg4 was something to be afraid of, due to Bxf7+ 😞

Originally posted by heinzkat
h3; it was not like Bg4 was something to be afraid of, due to Bxf7+ 😞

good point. makes me wonder if Bf5 is any good after any tempo-move like h3? trying to land something on e3 just to be nasty before white gets d4 in.

1. e4 c5 2. c3 d6 3. Nf3 Nf6 and then comes the point of the earlier poster's d6 move as after 4. e5 black simply retreats with Nfd7. Obviously, there are a bunch ov variations, and there are a bunch of threads on this one Sicilian Variation.