Originally posted by @drewnogalI see. So you cannot comment on the correctness of the sentence itself becuase you are not involved in the process, but you fiercely uphold the decision that he should go free anyway?
Without being involved somewhere in the whole process how could I ever have an objective view on it?
Originally posted by @drewnogalWhy do you support their right to appeal and the outcome of it, when all through this thread you have vociferously defended the right of the perpetrator to go free once his sentence is served?
Of course I do.
Originally posted by @divegeesterI can support both - and there are no outcomes yet.
Why do you support their right to appeal and the outcome of it, when all through this thread you have vociferously defended the right of the perpetrator to go free once his sentence is served?
The case in the OP will be heard on 6th April.
I’m not sure of the other.
Originally posted by @drewnogalBut according to you no one should be kept in prison once they have served their time.
[b]I can support both -
03 Apr 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterHe was hardly an incompetent. A colleague of his reported that during his watch the Parole Board cleared the longstanding backlog: dealing with 25,000 cases and holding over 7,000 oral hearings in 2017 whilst at the same time keeping the rate of serious further offending at less than 1%. He also pushed for greater transparency and championed increased engagement with victims.
Well he resigned because of the disgrace accompanying his incompetence, so yes you were.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/feb/21/john-worboys-victims-win-human-rights-case-against-policeŶ
03 Apr 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterThe time decided by a judge. Correct.
But according to you no one should be kept in prison once they have served their time.
Originally posted by @drewnogalHow is it that you cannot comment on the correctness of the sentence itself because you are not involved in the process, but you can strenuously uphold the decision that he should go free at the end of it?
I can support both -
03 Apr 18
Originally posted by @drewnogalI think the comments about incompetence were about the case in question. Most people have a decent cv.
He was hardly an incompetent. A colleague of his reported that during his watch the Parole Board cleared the longstanding backlog: dealing with 25,000 cases and holding over 7,000 oral hearings in 2017 whilst at the same time keeping the rate of serious further offending at less than 1%. He also pushed for greater transparency and championed increased eng ...[text shortened]... w.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/feb/21/john-worboys-victims-win-human-rights-case-against-policeŶ
Originally posted by @drewnogalAnd if the appeal is upheld will you acknowledge that that “judge’s” judgment was incorrect?
The time decided by a judge. Correct.
Originally posted by @drewnogalOk let’s accept that you haven’t read all the case notes, interviewed the parents, the witnesses, read the police files and undergone a course in criminal psychology....and irrespective of the debate surrounding the actual case in the OP; do you personally feel that the kidnapping, rape and murder of a child should carry a sentence of life imprisonment?
Without being involved somewhere in the whole process how could I ever have an objective view on it?
03 Apr 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterI’d say that if a sentence is extended an appeals judge has made that
And if the appeal is upheld will you acknowledge that that “judge’s” judgment was incorrect?
decision upon further information has come to light some years later.
I’d agree with that.
Originally posted by @drewnogalI must suppose that with your seemingly immovable faith in the judiciary system and your strict dispassionate objectivity, that you have never come across,nor paid any credence to, cases of miscarriages of justice or where one judge has overturned the desicion of another based solely on review and not “further information”.
I’d say that if a sentence is extended an appeals judge has made that decision upon further information has come to light some years later.
I’d agree with that.