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    @no1marauder
    Make no mistake, this is not jurisprudence, it is a blatant religious right wing political statement and they are only in phase one of the work going on for forty years now, the culmination of right wing judges appointed to all levels of the courts, they are not the slightest bit interested in actual LAW only in the best way they can push their clear political agenda.
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    @mott-the-hoople said
    you are correct, if you are talking about YOUR comment, scotus rulings are not subject to change. What do you fools think? scotus will go back in session and reverse their ruling?
    Protests are meant to show those running for office strong, united opinions. Peaceful demonstrations are a hallmark of democracies. The majority of the voting eligible public does not want to go back to a pre Civil War period where state rights superseded the federal government. They do not want to lose Medicare and Social Security, both paid through via wage deductions. They do not want to lose unemployment benefits and other social safety net programs. The majority is not interested in having government invade their personal lives; the bedroom, medical decisions, their bodies. They do not want to lose civil rights. The current GOP supports laws worse than the Sharia Laws they fear. The GOP knows they do not have the support of most citizens hence they are gerrymandering and implementing restrictive voting rules and installing partisan individuals into positions that monitor voting so they can more easily rig elections. Wealthy western democracies will soon cool off to supporting us. As the international community loses trust in the stability of our democracy, the dollar will drop. Countries will no longer trust the value of our currency or our bonds. If the far right has their way, there will be a domino effect that will threaten our economic and political security.
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    It will be interesting to see in the weeks ahead what effect the decision will have on polls concerning the mid-term election. For example as of now, the Real Clear Politics aggregate of polls has Republicans with a 3.4% advantage in the generic Congressional vote. That is skewed by Rassmussen, a terrible and biased company which has Republicans ahead by a ridiculous 8 points, but let's use it as a baseline and check back in in a couple of weeks when new polls have been conducted after the decision. Might also want to check out polls regarding the most important Senate races as well.
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    @techsouth said
    Violence popping up everywhere. Democrats will either be our rulers or they will destroy us.
    Uhuh.

    Moron.
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    @mott-the-hoople said
    you are correct, if you are talking about YOUR comment, scotus rulings are not subject to change. What do you fools think? scotus will go back in session and reverse their ruling?
    Presidential elections are not subject to change either.

    Somehow it's come to a consensus that if enough protestors on Jan6 had occupied empty rooms in the capitol building that Trump would have been named president.
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    What would you be saying if they had found Pence and actually killed him like they wanted to and BTW the evidence is now clear that the Proud Boys were Trump's army. Also what do you think of election workers getting death threats when they all did their jobs responsibly for hundreds of years till Trump came on the scene and started falsely accusing them of fraud? There was ZERO fraud, it was ALL on Trump seeking to overthrow the government and install himself as POTUS against the will of the people and THAT jack, is a FACT.
    Trump TRIED to make election of POTUS change to the one who cheats. He failed THAT time, they are gearing up for another run at killing our democracy by, for instance, not restricting votes which they are doing but something MUCH more sinister: Red states making laws allowing for them to get rid of electors they don't like and installing their own, puppets to vote how they wish, and THAT will be the end of democracy in the US. If that happens, there WILL be a second civil war and I will be with them attacking that despicable sinister and downright evil plan in their attempt to kill democracy. THAT will make things bloody.
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    @jimm619 said
    I think you got a LEGITIMATE PROTEST
    confused with JAN/6.
    No worry, just try to be better informed.
    Is it your contention that 100% of the protests going on right now are legitimate and that 100% of those on Jan6th were illegitimate?

    Please put yourself on record one way or another with a clear statement.
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    People are now fighting to keep the idea that women can control their own bodies and not be under government control which is what killing Roe V Wade is all about. SCTOUS is now just an arm of the religious ultraright and has left impartiality behind in the dust.

    There is that and there is also how we are viewed overseas, which I am sure you could care less about, but if we also get our democracy destroyed what other country could ever trust us again and we are running into that right now with those traitors on SCOTUS mandating government control of women's rights and also on their agenda is killing gay marriage, TOTAL ban on abortions no matter rape or incest and a ban even on contraceptives.
    So much for the right of privacy. But of course you WANT the government to control our lives, especially if it is only women and gays under the thumb of government since neither of those groups has you as a member, so fine with you.
    If it was men getting pregnant, you would be SCREAMING to high heaven if abortion rights were taken from YOU.
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    @techsouth said
    Is it your contention that 100% of the protests going on right now are legitimate and that 100% of those on Jan6th were illegitimate?

    Please put yourself on record one way or another with a clear statement.
    Of course, the protests on January 6th were "legitimate".

    The attacking police and invading the Capitol with the intent of disrupting the certification of the election by seizing legislators and Vice President Pence was a criminal conspiracy.
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    @phranny said
    Protests are meant to show those running for office strong, united opinions. Peaceful demonstrations are a hallmark of democracies. The majority of the voting eligible public does not want to go back to a pre Civil War period where state rights superseded the federal government. They do not want to lose Medicare and Social Security, both paid through via wage deductions. The ...[text shortened]... has their way, there will be a domino effect that will threaten our economic and political security.
    the scotus doesnt not run for office…rethink your stupid premise
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    @sonhouse said
    @techsouth
    People are now fighting to keep the idea that women can control their own bodies and not be under government control which is what killing Roe V Wade is all about. SCTOUS is now just an arm of the religious ultraright and has left impartiality behind in the dust.

    There is that and there is also how we are viewed overseas, which I am sure you could care less a ...[text shortened]... men getting pregnant, you would be SCREAMING to high heaven if abortion rights were taken from YOU.
    are you folks really too dumb to understand how getting pregnant works?
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    WOW mr OBVIOUS, but they are NOMINATED and vetted or not by elected officials to they represent the government which right now is 100% BS and left impartiality behind in the dust and if democracy holds together history will BLAST them all because historians find the truth.
    If we actually lose our democracy, history will be re-written as to how well such a move benefitted the US and all mankind.

    You are one offensive POS. You really think I don't know how babies are made?
    I said IF men were the ones getting pregnant there would be not a stir about abortions and you know that full well.
    This "decision'' which it isn't, it is the result of decades of preparation by the religious right wing and SCOTUS is now THEIR puppets.

    Gay rights, and even contraceptives are on the next agenda to kill and OF COURSE you are totally in that, just fine with you since you are neither a woman nor gay, at least I think not. This 'decision' is nothing more than an attack on women's rights, now government controls their lives and they even want to stop women from traveling to states banning abortion to states still allowing abortion and they are working on total ban so the attack on privacy and women's rights will totally under government control, the book 1984 predicted it but about 40 years early.
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    @techsouth
    What would you be saying if they had found Pence and actually killed him like they wanted to and BTW the evidence is now clear that the Proud Boys were Trump's army. Also what do you think of election workers getting death threats when they all did their jobs responsibly for hundreds of years till Trump came on the scene and started falsely accusing them of fraud ...[text shortened]... the government and install himself as POTUS against the will of the people and THAT jack, is a FACT.
    If there was no fraud, then no amount of additional investigation would have uncovered fraud. Trump was wanting the election certification be paused to go back to the states for more investigation. If what you're saying is true, that would have changed nothing and Biden would have been sworn in on schedule Jan 20th, 2021.

    And you are somehow certain there was zero fraud. That is unknowable. You claim to know the unknowable. The election cannot be fully audited, only parts of it can. It is not always possible to discern a situation with no fraud from a situation where fraud was skillfully done.

    We know there has been medicate fraud, tax fraud, welfare fraud, insurance fraud, bank fraud, academic fraud and more. We know that voting fraud has happened before in America and other parts of the world. We know that important important computer systems in the world are frequently hacked. The world is full of viruses, spyware, ransomware, keyloggers, etc. We know that people in vulnerable positions can be bribed, black-mailed and tricked and humans are capable of unimaginable methods of trickery and deceit.

    But somehow, in 2020, the election systems in all 50 states, and 3006 counties involving 100s of thousands of workers and volunteers came together and delivered a flawless election such that within a few weeks after the election a person of ordinary intelligence could say with absolute certainty that there was no trickery of any kind. The pentagon and NSA spend millions if not billions trying to secure their operations from infiltration. As smoothly as our 2020 election went, with total security, the NSA should hire the election board in some small county to take over their security operations.

    If that sounds far-fetched, all we have to do is ask the people in charge of elections wither they did their job correctly or not, and they will assure us they did.
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    @no1marauder said
    Of course, the protests on January 6th were "legitimate".

    The attacking police and invading the Capitol with the intent of disrupting the certification of the election by seizing legislators and Vice President Pence was a criminal conspiracy.
    you are ignorant of what is going on or just willfully lying…

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/06/25/pro-abortion-rioters-attempt-to-storm-arizona-capitol-while-in-session/
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    @mott-the-hoople said
    you are ignorant of what is going on or just willfully lying…

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/06/25/pro-abortion-rioters-attempt-to-storm-arizona-capitol-while-in-session/
    What am I "lying" about, Mott.

    I said nothing about anything but the January 6th protests in that post, did I?

    So retract your claim and apologize like a man.
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