1. Hy-Brasil
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    11 Oct '13 01:28
    Originally posted by moon1969
    Not at all. The rules were already set by Congress in defining essential services. The National Parks did not make the list.
    Wrong ! This is how deep the politicization of Barack Obama’s administration goes. The Park Service falls under the Department of the Interior, and its director is a political appointee and partisan hack of Obamas.( Jonathan Jarvis)

    Lets consider the actions of the National Park Service since the government shutdown began. People first noticed what the NPS was up to when the World War II Memorial on the National Mall was “closed.”

    Just to be clear, the memorial is an open plaza. There is nothing to operate. Sometimes there might be a ranger standing around. But he’s not collecting tickets or opening gates. Putting up barricades and posting guards to “close” the World War II Memorial takes more resources and manpower than “keeping it open.”

    The closure of the World War II Memorial was just the start of the Park Service’s partisan assault on the citizenry. There’s a cute little historic site just outside of the capital in McLean, Virginia, called the Claude Moore Colonial Farm. They do historical reenactments, and once upon a time the National Park Service helped run the place. But in 1980, the NPS cut the farm out of its budget. A group of private citizens set up an endowment to take care of the farm’s expenses. Ever since, the site has operated independently through a combination of private donations and volunteer workers.

    The Park Service told Claude Moore Colonial Farm to shut down.


    The farm’s administrators appealed ,they explained that the Park Service doesn’t actually do anything for the historic site. The folks at the NPS were unmoved. And so, last week, the National Park Service found the scratch to send officers to the park to forcibly remove both volunteer workers and visitors.

    The parking lot at Mount Vernon was closed by the NPS, too, even though the Park Service does not own Mount Vernon; it just controls access to the parking lots from the George Washington Parkway. The Park Service wasn’t content just to close Mount Rushmore. No, they went the extra mile and put out orange cones to block the little scenic overlook areas on the roads near Mount Rushmore. You know, just to make sure no taxpayers could catch a glimpse of it.

    At the Vietnam Memorial ( which is just a wall you walk past) the NPS called in police to block access.

    One park ranger explained to the Washington Times last week, “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can.”
  2. The Catbird's Seat
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    11 Oct '13 01:31
    Originally posted by moon1969
    You mean the ones that defund or delay the ACA?

    Never going to happen, thank goodness. The Tea Party only controls the House, not the Senate or the Presidency, thank god.
    "The Tea Party only controls the House"

    No matter how many time you repeat that lie, it doesn't become true.
  3. Houston, Texas
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    11 Oct '13 01:341 edit
    Originally posted by normbenign
    "The Tea Party only controls the House"

    No matter how many time you repeat that lie, it doesn't become true.
    Yes it is, through strong influence with the Speaker and an alliance with other radical conservatives, a few Tea Party seats in the House control the House. It is disgusting. To change that, it will take "Boner" to turn against the Tea Party.
  4. Houston, Texas
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    11 Oct '13 01:362 edits
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    [b]Wrong ! This is how deep the politicization of Barack Obama’s administration goes. The Park Service falls under the Department of the Interior, and its director is a political appointee and partisan hack of Obamas.( Jonathan Jarvis)

    Lets consider the actions of the National Park Service since the government shutdown began. People first notic ...[text shortened]... ington Times last week, “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can.”[/b]
    You give a complete distortion. The parks were barricaded to prevent defacing of monuments and injuries of visitors without the presence of a park ranger furloughed by the Tea Party.

    I am sure if the barricades had not been put up, and a monument defaced, you would be screaming that the President should have put up barricades. And you would argue that it was intentional. That the President did not put up a barricade, hoping the monument would be defaced.
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    11 Oct '13 01:37
    Originally posted by moon1969
    Yes it is, through strong influence with the Speaker and an alliance with other radical conservatives, a few Tea Party seats in the House control the House. It is disgusting. To change that, it will take "Boner" to turn against the Tea Party.
    The only way the TP will control the House is by electing another 100 members in the midterms. That may actually happen.
  6. The Catbird's Seat
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    11 Oct '13 01:37
    Originally posted by moon1969
    You give a complete distortion. The parks were barricaded to prevent defacing of monuments and injuries of visitors without the presence of a park ranger furloughed by the Tea Party.
    It didn't stop opening the mall for a demonstration for illegal immigrants.
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    11 Oct '13 01:39
    Originally posted by moon1969
    Yes it is, through strong influence with the Speaker and an alliance with other radical conservatives, a few Tea Party seats in the House control the House. It is disgusting. To change that, it will take "Boner" to turn against the Tea Party.
    Conservatives are not "radical".
    Obama, Reid , Pelosi, Jackson, moon1969, etc,etc are radical.
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    11 Oct '13 01:40
    Originally posted by normbenign
    It didn't stop opening the mall for a demonstration for illegal immigrants.
    The police merely responded as they have at all federal sites when needed.
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    11 Oct '13 01:43
    Originally posted by moon1969
    You give a complete distortion. The parks were barricaded to prevent defacing of monuments and injuries of visitors without the presence of a park ranger furloughed by the Tea Party.

    I am sure if the barricades had not been put up, and a monument defaced, you would be screaming that the President should have put up barricades. And you would argue that ...[text shortened]... tentional. That the President did not put up a barricade, hoping the monument would be defaced.
    The parks were barricaded to prevent defacing of monuments and injuries of visitors without the presence of a park ranger furloughed by the Tea Party.-moonbeam


    The tea party fuloughed a park ranger?! LMAO !
    🙄
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    11 Oct '13 01:43
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    Conservatives are not "radical".
    There are a few conservatives in the House that are rational and not radical. But to be sure, there are some truly extreme radical conservatives in the House. And then you have the Tea Party.
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    11 Oct '13 01:43
    Originally posted by moon1969
    The police merely responded as they have at all federal sites when needed.
    Sorry but the leftist meeting was approved, while the Vietnam and WWII monuments were barricaded. Those monuments are normally manned by volunteers, but now had to be patrolled by paid park police, not to mention the cost of the barricades and yellow tape.

    Obama is losing on this, really being exposed as the clown he is.
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    11 Oct '13 01:45
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    The parks were barricaded to prevent defacing of monuments and injuries of visitors without the presence of a park ranger furloughed by the Tea Party.-moonbeam


    The tea party fuloughed a park ranger?! LMAO !
    🙄
    The Tea Party shutdown the government.

    The CR already passed by the Senate is sitting on Boehner's desk and the House would pass it in 15 minutes, and the President would sign it immediately. The Tea Party ties Boehner's hands to not let the CR vote go to the House Floor.

    Yes, the Tea Party (and Boehner) furloughed the park rangers.
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    11 Oct '13 01:47
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Obama is losing on this, really being exposed as the clown he is.
    Your are living a pipe dream to think the President is taking a bigger hit than the GOP and specifically the Tea Party.
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    11 Oct '13 01:481 edit
    Originally posted by moon1969
    The Tea Party shutdown the government.

    The CR already passed by the Senate is sitting on Boehner's desk and the House would pass it in 15 minutes, and the President would sign it immediately. The Tea Party ties Boehner's hands to not let the CR vote go to the House Floor.

    Yes, the Tea Party (and Boehner) furloughed the park rangers.
    A CR has been sitting in the Senate too, and it is the extreme leftists that hold it up there.
  15. Houston, Texas
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    11 Oct '13 01:49
    Originally posted by normbenign
    A CR has been sitting in the Senate too, and it is the extreme leftists that hod it up there.
    It is not a CR. It is a CR with conditions.
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