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I am really loving this. You two are debating MLB with your projected outcomes in the Fantasy baseball thread.
Originally posted by quackquackMy picks are the highest pay roll teams in each division. Let my points be proven at the end of the year instead of such continuous babble. I plan to revisit my predictions and I hope you will join me. 😀
Your predictions would be more accurate, interesting and convincing if you looked at the quality of players on the team. For example, I too picked the Twins for second place even though the Twins are actually spending more money than ever (perhaps you saw the Joe Mauer contract and the new stadium) but with Morneau coming off an injury and Nathan out for illy was too small a market to ever compete. There are just no principles in your arguements.
Originally posted by whodeyIf you don't like baseball then stop posting and don't watch.
My picks are the highest pay roll teams in each division. Let my points be proven at the end of the year instead of such continuous babble. I plan to revisit my predictions and I hope you will join me. 😀
Of course, there are other confounding factors that may screw up my predictoins such as well run organizations verses poorly run, as I have pointed ou ...[text shortened]... orrect. Wiinning today in MLB is just about throwing money around and it bores me to tears. 😴
Originally posted by quackquackNope. I love the game but hate what MLB has done to it. I feel the same way about the politics of my country. I'm just part of the silent majority unrepresented and trodden under foot. The problem is I don't like to be silent. ðŸ˜
If you don't like baseball then stop posting and don't watch.
Originally posted by quackquackAs I said, if you split the teams down the middle in MLB you have about 5 or 6 in the highest of pay rolls not have a winning season. Conversely, if you take the bottom pay roll teams you have about 5 or 6 teams with a winning season. They are mirror images of each other.
The NYT printed 2010 payroll numbers and I thought I was interesting that some of your low budget teams really are high budget teams. For example, Minnesota's average salary is 3.484M while the Angels is 3.621M and the Dodgers is 3.651M. If you include taxes and cost of living i think the Twins are paying more than either LA team.
As for your only ...[text shortened]... ets, Tigers, White Sox, Mariners and Giants) are teams that did not make they playoffs in 2009.
Originally posted by whodeySix of the top 10 payrolls did not make the playoffs. The Yankees, Red Sox and Phillies spend a lot of money and have real good teams (they also have real good fans and real good homegrown talent on their roster in addition to free agent signings) but the Mets and Cubs spends a lot and don't. Your claim that it's all about money just isn't true.
As I said, if you split the teams down the middle in MLB you have about 5 or 6 in the highest of pay rolls not have a winning season. Conversely, if you take the bottom pay roll teams you have about 5 or 6 teams with a winning season. They are mirror images of each other.
Originally posted by quackquackIts not about buying a playoff birth, its about buying a winning season to position yourself to get into the playoffs. The cut off line seems to be around $100 million in pay roll to buy a winning season.
Six of the top 10 payrolls did not make the playoffs. The Yankees, Red Sox and Phillies spend a lot of money and have real good teams (they also have real good fans and real good homegrown talent on their roster in addition to free agent signings) but the Mets and Cubs spends a lot and don't. Your claim that it's all about money just isn't true.
Originally posted by whodeyI will route very strongly for Cincinnati this season 😀
My picks are the highest pay roll teams in each division. Let my points be proven at the end of the year instead of such continuous babble. I plan to revisit my predictions and I hope you will join me. 😀
Of course, there are other confounding factors that may screw up my predictoins such as well run organizations verses poorly run, as I have pointed ou ...[text shortened]... orrect. Wiinning today in MLB is just about throwing money around and it bores me to tears. 😴
Originally posted by MelanerpesThis is the same illogical redistribution garbage we get on the front page on the newspaper. Getting the first pick simply for being incomepetent is enough disensentive for being good. This isn't little league for five year olds where everyone gets to bat and everyone gets a trophy. If you don't want to spend like the Yankees or the Red Sox or build a farm team with great players like Tampa Bay and you are in the AL East then you are simply not going to win as often. Revenue sharing, luxury tax, national TV contracts, internet sales are all shared.
I do agree that teams with high payrolls do have a certain advantage over the really low payroll teams.
I have an idea for a solution that doesn't involve salary caps or other things that the players union would be very slow to accept.
When they have the draft, when they do the usual reverse order picks every year, give the team with the worst reco ...[text shortened]... re ready and wouldn't waste one or two years off their MLB careers sitting in the minors.
Originally posted by quackquackactually, I would definitely extend my idea to basketball as well - actually basketball might be the first place to try it since its almost impossible for a bad team to become good (or vice versa) within a short period of time.
This is the same illogical redistribution garbage we get on the front page on the newspaper. Getting the first pick simply for being incomepetent is enough disensentive for being good. This isn't little league for five year olds where everyone gets to bat and everyone gets a trophy. If you don't want to spend like the Yankees or the Red Sox or build a ...[text shortened]... Favors, Wesley Johnson and Ed Davis? Why is baseball held to different and foolish standard?
Originally posted by quackquackDon't worry. It wouldn't turn into trophies for everyone. Even if my proposal was implemented, I doubt it would have more than a moderate effect on helping the smaller market franchises.
This is the same illogical redistribution garbage we get on the front page on the newspaper. Getting the first pick simply for being incomepetent is enough disensentive for being good. This isn't little league for five year olds where everyone gets to bat and everyone gets a trophy. If you don't want to spend like the Yankees or the Red Sox or build a ...[text shortened]... Favors, Wesley Johnson and Ed Davis? Why is baseball held to different and foolish standard?
Originally posted by MelanerpesThere seems to have been a change since the last baseball strike in the mid 1990's. MLB seems to have caved to the union so that the players are now in the drivers seat. This means that if you are good enough, you too can become a Yankee.
Don't worry. It wouldn't turn into trophies for everyone. Even if my proposal was implemented, I doubt it would have more than a moderate effect on helping the smaller market franchises.
My proposal probably wouldn't do much to help the truly incompetent organizations. They'd still make lousy draft picks, or terrible trades or inadvisable free agent s ...[text shortened]... employ a strategy that focuses on building up the farm system and developing young players.