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@torunn saidYou'd be wrong though.
I would credit him for making it possible to win WWII.
Nice thought.
@torunn saidYou'd be wrong though.
I would credit him for making it possible to win WWII.
@moonbus saidWW2 ended the British Empire .... not Gandhi.
Well for starters, Gandhi threw the British Empire out of its prize colony. That altered world history, both for Asia and the British Empire. India is the world’s most populous democracy. And the British Empire is no more.
But, if you discount Asia and the British Empire, I can see how you might think Gandhi was nobody very influential.
@wolfgang59 saidAccording to the history books I've read, it wouldn't have been possible without him.
You'd be wrong though.
Nice thought.
@torunn saidChurchill was a great orator and leader.
According to the history books I've read, it wouldn't have been possible without him.
@wolfgang59 saidI'll rephrase: He helped making it possible to win WWII.
Churchill was a great orator and leader.
Maybe he prevented the invasion of UK.
But Russia with some help from US would ultimately have defeated Hitler.
Churchill saved Britain (perhaps) he did not win WW2.
@torunn saidSo did my dad.
I'll rephrase: He helped making it possible to win WWII.
@very-rusty saidI'm sorry to say you're probably right.
1. Jeff Bezos.
2.Bill Gates.
3. Warren Buffett.
@wolfgang59 saidYou can leave the latecomers out of it. By the time the Yanks decided to be here, over-paid, over-horny and finallyover here, the Russians had all but won the war already. And yes, the English helped make it possible for them to do so, as did the Poles and many others. But not the two-year-ditherers.
But Russia with some help from US would ultimately have defeated Hitler.
@divegeester saidBe grateful to the Russians? Are you on crack?
Three main factors contributing the fall of Nazi Germany (imo):
1) Hitlers poor mental health which ultimately compromised his leadership and military decision-making processes.
2) The Russians in the North and the allied forces in the west, each respectively supported by freezing weather and the English Chanel, both of which helped to curtail the German advance.
...[text shortened]... tler to focus north ~ and we are grateful to the Russians for their bravery and unfathomable losses.
@torunn saidAnd today we see this with Iran who chant death to America and Israel everyday.
"...By this time the Leftists in the UK were faced with annihilation, as Churchill had kept trying to warn them about instead of appeasing Hitler. So when it looked like all was lost, they decided to throw Churchill into power, but then when in power the Leftists kept pleading with him to make a deal with the little National Socialist for "peace". In other words, they wanted C ...[text shortened]... have been so much different had it not been for the determination and courage of Winston Churchill.
@whodey saidYou do realise that appeasement was a right-wing policy, don't you? Chamberlain was a life-long Tory, Churchill was not.
By this time the Leftists in the UK were faced with annihilation, as Churchill had kept trying to warn them about instead of appeasing Hitler.
@whodey saidTo Chamberlain?
I reckon Trump is the closest thing we have today.